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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    These arguments could come to NZ

    Hope Tower don’t have too many such policies

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/bank...05-p55000.html
    You would have to guess they don't have much from slide 49 of the recent 2020 HY report. This had NZ revenue being pretty much all householder products: $65.3m (House), $27.5m (Contents), $56.3m (Motor) and $4.5m (Other). If the combination of Business Asset, Commercial Vehicle, Business interruption and Business liability insurance is all bundled into the 3% of NZ revenues in other, the exposure to business interruption claims would appear to be small. This doesn't remove the risk of mis-priced the risk with only a little bit of revenue and a huge claim.

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    HOLD..... just cannot get excited about this stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamcatcher View Post
    HOLD..... just cannot get excited about this stock
    If you want to erode you capital and no dividend just buy into this company that forever begging for more money from shareholders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrunch View Post
    You would have to guess they don't have much from slide 49 of the recent 2020 HY report. This had NZ revenue being pretty much all householder products: $65.3m (House), $27.5m (Contents), $56.3m (Motor) and $4.5m (Other). If the combination of Business Asset, Commercial Vehicle, Business interruption and Business liability insurance is all bundled into the 3% of NZ revenues in other, the exposure to business interruption claims would appear to be small. This doesn't remove the risk of mis-priced the risk with only a little bit of revenue and a huge claim.
    Correct. Very little exposure to commercial in their book. What they do have is heavily reinsured from what I can tell. Pacific Islands is a bit of a different story as most of their book is on the commercial end of the spectrum... again heavily reinsured all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    If you want to erode you capital and no dividend just buy into this company that forever begging for more money from shareholders
    To be fair, if you took the Canterbury Earthquake situation away this would have been a massive success story. In recent years they are bouncing forward really well and are on a strong trajectory - their digital stuff looks like it is the best in the market right now.

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    Hope Auckland tornadoes aren’t as expensive as Timaru hailstones
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Hope Tower don’t have too many claims out of Northland.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hope Tower don’t have too many claims out of Northland.
    No worries winner - with the share price virtually at an all time low, one would think a much bigger impact is being priced in than "only" Auckland tornadoes + Northland floods etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader_jackson View Post
    No worries winner - with the share price virtually at an all time low, one would think a much bigger impact is being priced in than "only" Auckland tornadoes + Northland floods etc
    Also...$7.5m refund
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    https://www.tower.co.nz/about-us/new...k-to-customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader_jackson View Post
    No worries winner - with the share price virtually at an all time low, one would think a much bigger impact is being priced in than "only" Auckland tornadoes + Northland floods etc
    Just think that world sees insurance companies as not good investments ....can’t really blame them

    Climate makes them risky as and they can’t even make a buck out of ‘investing’ the premiums (float)
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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