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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post

    And Uncyclopedia is an equally reliable but not often quoted resource for those wanting to take short cuts in rigorous research. If you want an authoritative citation then visit: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

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    Interesting the psychological effects of the Great Recession (we're getting closer to calling it a Depression with Japan's industrial output plunging 10% in one month, I suspect we just need more time before it is formally recognised as a Depression).

    The effects I refer to - a very noticeable decline in the amount of texting and emails and a very noticeable decline in the amount of posting on Sharetraders. Also, sadly, a most noticeable decline in Internet posted or email jokes - practically vanished.

    As a mark of defiance here's a reminder of that endangered species (no, government subsidies and more regulation can't save it).

    "One day a guy and an attractive woman who didn’t know each other, separately boarded a plane to Australia from NZ.

    By chance they sat next to each other in the plane and started reading magazines.

    After a while he made an effort at making conversation….



    Are you off to somewhere interesting for a holiday?, he enquired.



    Well, I’m going to the Australasian Nymphomaniacs annual conference in Sydney, she replied.



    Silence, while they flicked through their magazines.



    Which type of man do you like best? He asks.



    Oh, policemen, they’re big, manly and honest.



    And second?



    Cowboys, they’re good at riding horses and into saddles, leather, whips and boots.



    And third?



    Jewish men, they’re intelligent, artistic and circumcised.



    Silence while they flick further through their magazines.



    Oh, I didn’t ask you what your name is? She asked.



    Sergeant Hopalong Bernstein, he replied."

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    one of the most significant sources of pollutants, methane?, is hydro-electric power generation. Vast areas of swampland in North America and Russia are used as water supply and strorageareas for the schemes. The regular flooding and drainage of the swamplands creates massive amounts of decaying vegetable matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiawatha View Post
    It looks like Al Gore has been vindicated.
    Oh no he hasn't.

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    It's another guess, just like when were all told in 1974 that by 2004 the world would be out of oil.
    A punt by a collection of academics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
    It's another guess, just like when were all told in 1974 that by 2004 the world would be out of oil.
    A punt by a collection of academics.
    Not long before that we were waiting for a new ice age caused by what? That's right - man made gases preventing the sun from warming the planet. I'm still waiting for the Y2K bug to eat my house. I've forgotten about bird-flu.
    There's a buck to be made in the panic industry all right. I think I'll start marketing anti mad-cow disease tablets.

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    Meanwhile because of these silly repeated cries of WOLF! by people like Al Gore and Michael Moore who wouldn't know how to spell science, 44% (latest poll) and growing of the US population plus a growing number of scientists and a growing number of EU countries are simply laughing at the PANIC NOW! industry.

    Concomitantly the world temperature has increased by 0.2 degs in the last 10 years and decreased since 2003.

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    That's the problem with the IPCC Al Gore and Michael Moore, their ignorance and politicisation is bliss to them.

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    This is an interesting read:

    Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...83-601,00.html

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    Beware the climate of conformity, (Sydney Morning Herald)

    * Paul Sheehan
    * April 13, 2009
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    Plimer (the famous geologist/scientist) does not dispute the dramatic flux of climate change - and this column is not about Australia's water debate - but he fundamentally disputes most of the assumptions and projections being made about the current causes, mostly led by atmospheric scientists, who have a different perspective on time. "It is little wonder that catastrophist views of the future of the planet fall on fertile pastures. The history of time shows us that depopulation, social disruption, extinctions, disease and catastrophic droughts take place in cold times … and life blossoms and economies boom in warm times. Planet Earth is dynamic. It always changes and evolves. It is currently in an ice age."

    If we look at the last 6 million years, the Earth was warmer than it is now for 3 million years. The ice caps of the Arctic, Antarctica and Greenland are geologically unusual. Polar ice has only been present for less than 20 per cent of geological time. What follows is an intense compression of the book's 500 pages and all their provocative arguments and conclusions:

    Is dangerous warming occurring? No.

    Is the temperature range observed in the 20th century outside the range of normal variability? No.

    The Earth's climate is driven by the receipt and redistribution of solar energy. Despite this crucial relationship, the sun tends to be brushed aside as the most important driver of climate. Calculations on supercomputers are primitive compared with the complex dynamism of the Earth's climate and ignore the crucial relationship between climate and solar energy.

    "To reduce modern climate change to one variable, CO2, or a small proportion of one variable - human-induced CO2 - is not science. To try to predict the future based on just one variable (CO2) in extraordinarily complex natural systems is folly. Yet when astronomers have the temerity to show that climate is driven by solar activities rather than CO2 emissions, they are dismissed as dinosaurs undertaking the methods of old-fashioned science." Continued...
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/beware...ya.html?page=2

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    Now try reading the link posted by Boring above from Australia's chief Antarctic scientist showing the South Pole has cooled over the last 10 years and that Antarctic ice is increasing not decreasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major von Tempsky View Post
    Now try reading the link posted by Boring above from Australia's chief Antarctic scientist showing the South Pole has cooled over the last 10 years and that Antarctic ice is increasing not decreasing.
    It's a socialist thing - they can't accept that they can't just pass a law that will control the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiawatha View Post
    I doubt it's a guess. Those academics must be able to measure the amount ice involved. And to go from there to a projection of the sea level rise, if that ice were to disappear, ought to be a fairly straightforward calculation.
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    . As water encroaches onto land it is a greatly enlarged thin area of heated water that evapourates rapidly and what goes up must come down in the form of rain or snow. I have no problem with climate change but to say that the experts can accurately predict is a bit like relying on the writings of Nostradamus. Some will be right and will crow like cockrels and some will be wrong. There is no model for the variables and the human effect is negligible. I will predict that the change is on an exponential curve and that within twenty or so years we will be experiencing weather events far beyond anything we now know or expect. The whole human/green thing will go into the waste basket as we fight to survive. And then, one good volcano can stuff the whole thig up.
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    Warming? The Earth is colder than it was 10 years ago according to continuing weather station data over those years - see also the article that the Antarctic overall is getting colder.

    The Earth is a very large very complex system. Some parts of it are getting warmer, some parts of it are getting colder but overall its getting colder.

    That's why the IPCC & have discreetly changed from talking about "Global Warming" to talking about "Global Climate Change".

    You're out of date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiawatha View Post
    Bollocks.
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    Isnt that where the Mayor of Kaitia keeps the city thermometer to convince the rest of us that his climate is better than anywhere else? or has he moved it around the back to protect his manhood?

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