Ports of Tauranga

[Arbitrage]

Hi Zaphod. I understand that the problem with Northport is the rail link to Auckland. Apparently the tunnels are too small to handle the type of freight required to be transhipped and it would be uneconomic to upgrade. Perhaps someone else may be able to enlighten this?

[Marilyn Munroe]

Hi Zaphod. I understand that the problem with Northport is the rail link to Auckland. Apparently the tunnels are too small to handle the type of freight required to be transhipped and it would be uneconomic to upgrade. Perhaps someone else may be able to enlighten this?

Actually rather than Gerry Brownlee(The Colossus of Rhodes) spending billions on the Holiday Highway he could have got better bang-for-his-buck and made a superior contibution to economic development in Northland if had spent less money, upgraded the Northland Rail Line and built a rail spur to Marsden Point.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

[percy]

Actually rather than Gerry Brownlee(The Colossus of Rhodes) spending billions on the Holiday Highway he could have got better bang-for-his-buck and made a superior contibution to economic development in Northland if had spent less money, upgraded the Northland Rail Line and built a rail spur to Marsden Point.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

MM.Would have to agree with you.

[RTM]

Yep...but that would have required thinking outside the box a bit. Completely agree that that needs to happen.

One wonders if JK and his mates are waiting / hoping to see if POT / Northport will fund the work themselves !

Actually rather than Gerry Brownlee(The Colossus of Rhodes) spending billions on the Holiday Highway he could have got better bang-for-his-buck and made a superior contibution to economic development in Northland if had spent less money, upgraded the Northland Rail Line and built a rail spur to Marsden Point.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

[percy]

Yep...but that would have required thinking outside the box a bit. Completely agree that that needs to happen.

One wonders if JK and his mates are waiting / hoping to see if POT / Northport will fund the work themselves !

Think you are right.!!!

[Marilyn Munroe]

.... and trains take 3.5 -5.5 hours to come to Auckland.
when they take extra ships it can take an extra two days to get the containers to Auckland

There is also a capacity problem with rail in the South Island. The section of track between Oamaru and Dunedin cannot handle large trains beacause of the difficult geography. It is particulary bad on the section around the cliffs between Port Chalmers and Waitati.

It not a problem at the moment because the volume of freight does not put this bottleneck under pressure. However if Silver Fern Farms and Fontera were to rail everything from Dunedin and south to Timaru it could become a problem.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

[percy]

Perhaps the $80mil,$60mil,$40mil expected to be spent dredging POA,LPC etc would be better spent on railway tracks and tunnels?

[Zaphod]

Hi Zaphod. I understand that the problem with Northport is the rail link to Auckland. Apparently the tunnels are too small to handle the type of freight required to be transhipped and it would be uneconomic to upgrade. Perhaps someone else may be able to enlighten this?

If that's the case then remediation could be a very long time away as the capital cost would be significant. Perhaps NPC/POT and POA (in this unholy alliance) are banking on the Northland economy booming? Or perhaps road and coastal shipping could provide an interim solutions? Whatever the case, there is obviously a long-term strategic vision at play.

Hi Arbitage
same issue for POT, there is only one line from hamilton to Tauranga (and the kaimai tunnel) and trains take 3.5 -5.5 hours to come to Auckland.
when they take extra ships it can take an extra two days to get the containers to Auckland
Disc holding

Weren't the RTA lobbying for a truck tunnel for the Kaimai's? I never heard a peep from Kiwirail which surprises me.

[blocker3]

Hi Arbitage
same issue for POT, there is only one line from hamilton to Tauranga (and the kaimai tunnel) and trains take 3.5 -5.5 hours to come to Auckland.
when they take extra ships it can take an extra two days to get the containers to Auckland
Disc holding

Hi dino4abcoach.

Quote:when they take extra ships it can take an extra two days to get the containers to Auckland.

Sorry but I think your personal opinion has no grounds or facts. Where did that come from.......
I honestly disagree with you on this one. A derailment would be the only cause for delay that I see .Cheers Blocker3

Disc Still continue to hold POT shares

[blocker3]

Hi blocker
I work in the industry and have to placate clients when containers are slow to move up.
the problem is not POT, but the rail from Hamilton to trg, they cant ramp up extra trains as its single lane.
I went on the POT industry rail trip a couple of years ago and saw first hand, took us 5 hours to get there. we had to slow constantly to slow speeds as parts of the track required maintenance and had to wait 20 minutes before we could go through the tunnel (for the fumes to clear) as a train had gone before us

Additional exchange and import volume 9th to 14th JulyDear Customer

Additional vessel exchange and import volume have been confirmed at Tauranga Container Terminal, as such demand for our MetroPort service between Tauranga Container Terminal and MetroPort Auckland will be higher than normal during the period Wednesday 9th July to Monday 14th July.

It is advised that our customers manage their cargo delivery through our web based system "ShuttleSelect" to assist in providing a timely delivery of your cargo to MetroPort Auckland.

Hi dino4abcoach

Thank you for your honest opinion. Cheers Blocker