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    Who cares if owning a property is productive or not?. Who cares if NZ has a larger proportion of its population owning their own homes than comparable countries. Some one has got to own the house you live in. Whats the difference between you the Govt or the council, or a private landlord? owning it you still gottahavahome.
    The money still has to come out of circulation that otherwize might have been invested in some factory business relocated overseas in order to exploit slave labour conditions.
    In the great scheme of things, it makes little difference who owns it, as long as it houses a productive worker and his family. The only question is do we or dont we have to many houses, and if so market forces will drive the price up or down.
    When i see families living in garages in this day and age, i know that we have got it very wrong in the past. The social cost of poverty is a high price to pay if we all get to smug to even see it coming. Macdunk

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    The equities market is a crystal ball to the future of the property market.

    Abit like equities, if you are not in, then you will miss out.
    Having got ourselves into a debt-induced economic crisis, the only permanent way out is to reduce the debt – either directly by abolishing large slabs of it, or indirectly by inflating it away.

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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...s-property-tax

    Treasury suggests property tax

    Treasury Secretary John Whitehead today risked the wrath of property investors by suggesting New Zealand address the long standing issue of taxing capital gains from property investment.

    In a speech to the Institute of Directors, he called for a debate about "significant adjustment and change'' so the economy can emerge strongly from the current recession.

    He focused on taxation, regulation, the role of the public sector and making New Zealand an attractive investment destination.

    "At the risk of being chased down by an angry crowd with pitchforks and flaming torches, yes this should include consideration of moving the boundaries to tax more capital gains - for example on investment property - and shifting more of the tax base towards consumption,'' he said.

    Capital gains, or property taxes, would encourage investment into productive activity.

    Also, New Zealand's company tax rates were at the upper end of the scale by the standards of the OECD and other small open economies.

    "The pressure on us will be even stronger if the review of Australia's tax system currently under way leads to further company tax cuts across the Tasman.''

    The call for more fundamental policy changes comes at a time when the Government has been seeking advice outside Treasury and after a budget that was seen as tackling immediate fiscal and economic pressures.

    Mr Whitehead said that for New Zealand to come out of the recession stronger than other countries it had to tackle long standing constraints on growth.

    "Our judgment is that many of New Zealand's current policy settings will not deliver the performance we need,'' he said.

    An era of cheap credit was over and investors were more risk averse. New Zealand needed to work much harder to attract foreign investment, Mr Whitehead said.

    The Government is reviewing the Overseas Investment Act, the Building Act and the Resource Management Act, with the aim of removing barriers and improving productivity.

    Mr Whitehead suggested creating independent entities to assess the costs and benefits of policies and regulation.

    "This is one of the roles the Productivity Commission plays in Australia,'' he said.

    Commenting on the role of the public sector, he said any further spending by it needed to be justified.

    "Put simply, we need to shift the onus of proof and focus government spending where the benefits are greatest''.

    There were opportunities to do things better in the public sector, in the international environment, in the tax environment and in the regulatory environment.

    "The time to grab these opportunities is now,''' he said.

    - NZPA
    There we have it Dr.

    And why care about it macdunk? Because things like this will pop up and poop all over your investment strategy. Now is not the time to buy property.
    Last edited by upside_umop; 03-06-2009 at 11:45 PM.
    By the way - it's upside_down, not upside_umop

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