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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    lowest consumer confidence figures for a long time

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12127806

    current account figures not looking rosy

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12127900

    imagine how bad it look when investment returns decline.
    That Westpac Consumer Confidence has a question - Do you expect to be better or worse off financially in a years time?

    More now saying No than Yes ...a net negative score

    This shows people are now less optimistic about improvements in their own personal position than at any time in the last 30 years outside periods when the economy was already in the midst of a recession (and materially lower than in the fairly shallow 1997/98 recession).

    As an aside share markets don’t do too well when this goes negative ...hmmm
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    That Westpac Consumer Confidence has a question - Do you expect to be better or worse off financially in a years time?

    More now saying No than Yes ...a net negative score

    This shows people are now less optimistic about improvements in their own personal position than at any time in the last 30 years outside periods when the economy was already in the midst of a recession (and materially lower than in the fairly shallow 1997/98 recession).

    As an aside share markets don’t do too well when this goes negative ...hmmm
    The result season has been excellent.I even brought some MVN.
    Today Chris Flood, deputy CEO at HBL, said motor vehicle financing remains strong with a positive outlook.
    New car sales still setting records.Your mate Jeff Greenslade, very positive about HBL's continued strong organic growth.
    So this sharemarket has been going really well on negative outlook.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    The result season has been excellent.I even brought some MVN.
    Today Chris Flood, deputy CEO at HBL, said motor vehicle financing remains strong with a positive outlook.
    New car sales still setting records.Your mate Jeff Greenslade, very positive about HBL's continued strong organic growth.
    So this sharemarket has been going really well on negative outlook.?

    Might be a forward looking indicator
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Might be a forward looking indicator
    Might be.?
    Certainly not a current indicator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Might be.?
    Certainly not a current indicator.
    Did say share market performance ...not company performance

    Thl, atm, tra good examples of pretty bad share market performance ...always have a few leading thecway, others might follow
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Judgement day for TRA just a week away.Might be a case of day follows night.?
    ATM well I get into trouble when I comment."No surprises there."
    THL.A bit of an own goal, when tourist numbers using vans are increasing here, there ,and elsewhere?
    Last edited by percy; 19-09-2018 at 08:24 PM.

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    Confidence per se guides market sentiment, ie what punters are prepared to pay for a buck of profit.

    Looks like they are starting to be pay less (even though profits in a lot of cases are going up)
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Confidence per se guides market sentiment, ie what punters are prepared to pay for a buck of profit.

    Looks like they are starting to be pay less (even though profits in a lot of cases are going up)
    It all just portends the great reckoning. Thankfully most here have the wherewithal to bank their gains and cut their losses. Until it happens, ride the wave. Crashes happen in slow motion, it's only the shocking first few days that the window is open to minimise losses. Until that happens, ride the wave, don't predict it.

    Jmho

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Did say share market performance ...not company performance

    Thl, atm, tra good examples of pretty bad share market performance ...always have a few leading thecway, others might follow

    How is ATM having bad shareprice performance? Looks great to me

    can’t say the same for the other two, thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patient Panda View Post
    How is ATM having bad shareprice performance? Looks great to me

    can’t say the same for the other two, thats for sure.
    Yeah so bad that like XRO those that bought a reasonable number early on can choose to never do another days work in their life.Lol.

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