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25-09-2023, 09:46 AM
#1971
Did Forbar and Craigs get FY23 right?
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25-09-2023, 11:15 AM
#1972
One thing Kathmandu do well is the size of their Annual Report
It’s 208 pages ….must be some record for the NZX ..if not the world
Must have a lot to rave about
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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25-09-2023, 11:17 AM
#1973
Originally Posted by Rawz
Did Forbar and Craigs get FY23 right?
Good question, and I don't track individual analysts - but I do track consensus forecasts.
The last forecast I had for KMD from early July (i.e. prior to the FY results) was Rev $1165m (which was pretty much spot on) and EPS 8 cents (which turned into 5 cents).
So, yes and no ... they got the important bit wrong. On the other hand - nobody can predict the future, and this includes analysts - the best they can do is outline one possible option how things might develop in future. If they are good, than at least they get it in average more often right than wrong.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-09-2023, 11:27 AM
#1974
Forecast future earnings is near impossible to get 100% right.
However getting a good understanding of a company,and doing a lot of research, including reading brokers' reports ,you sometimes do get it right.
When you do the profits are worth the effort.
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25-09-2023, 01:42 PM
#1975
Our mate Phil Bowman bought some more shares (for himself and his investment company)
Averaging down nicely ….now the average is $1.21
But whst he’s down the gurgler by is only petty cash for our Phil
Where’s he living these days …last heard off back in the UK
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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25-09-2023, 04:26 PM
#1976
On the PnL the depreciation and amort expense is $123,713k and says to refer to section3.2-3.4 for the explanation.
However when I look at that section it has depreciation for the year of $22,824k (page 74) and amortisation of $14,132k (page 75).
So it doesn't add to $123m.. what am i missing??
Edit add: thought it was extremely high considering investing activities total $35.9m
Last edited by Rawz; 25-09-2023 at 04:32 PM.
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25-09-2023, 04:49 PM
#1977
Originally Posted by Rawz
On the PnL the depreciation and amort expense is $123,713k and says to refer to section3.2-3.4 for the explanation.
However when I look at that section it has depreciation for the year of $22,824k (page 74) and amortisation of $14,132k (page 75).
So it doesn't add to $123m.. what am i missing??
Edit add: thought it was extremely high considering investing activities total $35.9m
Lease depreciation?
3.4.1 Right-of-use assets
Last edited by Fortunecookie; 25-09-2023 at 04:51 PM.
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25-09-2023, 09:17 PM
#1978
Originally Posted by Fortunecookie
Lease depreciation?
3.4.1 Right-of-use assets
Oh yeah thanks. I’ve been caught out by this so many times now
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25-09-2023, 11:41 PM
#1979
Originally Posted by Rawz
Oh yeah thanks. I’ve been caught out by this so many times now
It is certainly a good area to look at to see if amortization is material- non cash impact to the NP.
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26-09-2023, 10:57 AM
#1980
If you look at FY20 cashflows you can see how one could get excited about KMD. They generated $73m. So if one day soon they got back to this sort of cash cow level at todays market cap of $611m it looks pretty good. $73m/$611m= 12%. Double digit cashflow yield good aye
This year they generated $24.6m fcf. Not very good. Paid out a dividend of $43m. Used debt to pay it.
One could think this big divvy is a good sign that management are confident the cashflows will one day get back up towards $70m level. Otherwise why payout so much cash?
SP has bounced nicely from the low of $0.77 back to $0.86 now.
I still think half year has been flagged as poor so this SP jump will be short lived imo and no need to rush in to buy.
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