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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    They confirmed previous guidance of -590/-675 mio so maybe not
    ok maybe its a subsequent event thats happened after balance date and they arguing over inclusion as a note to the accounts.
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    The govt has announced some proposed freshwater regulations. This is probably worth keeping an eye on over the medium term.
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    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news...cid=spartandhp

    Tough call or not enough ?
    If I was a dairy farmer I would be thinking a pay freeze is nothing. I'd be looking for Fonterror to dramatically slim down their overheads and staff numbers.
    I hardly think the massive numbers of managers earning $250K plus are doing it tough with just a temporary salary freeze.
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    NOT ENOUGH BY A LONG WAY.
    But I guess other stuff is also happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news...cid=spartandhp

    Tough call or not enough ?
    If I was a dairy farmer I would be thinking a pay freeze is nothing. I'd be looking for Fonterror to dramatically slim down their overheads and staff numbers.
    I hardly think the massive numbers of managers earning $250K plus are doing it tough with just a temporary salary freeze.

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    Word in the agri-street is some of the banks are going to start tightening the thumbscrews on some of the more highly leveraged farmers - forced sales potentially on the cards. Impacted by new reserve bank rules.

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    Fonterra to shed large number of jobs to balance books

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...books#comments


    yep lots of chiefs not enough indians typical bloated corp
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    David Hargreaves crunches some numbers around Fonterra and does little to soothe his own anxiety about the future of New Zealand's dairy giant and our dairy industry

    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/1...nd-does-little


    hope its not NZ version of enron ? only way out is list 49% company to reduce debt or govt bailout i reckon if debt blows out further due to writedowns
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    That is a very good write up which is horrifying . Glad I have not bought the shares.

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    Oh my goodness, it looks if those write-downs are even more severe gearing could go up quite substantially, possibly to as much as 60%.
    Auditors possibly set to tag the financial statements with fundamental uncertainty if this is a going concern ?
    What a mess...
    I think really radical change is required and a massive streamlining but I doubt the board or the new CEO will have the foresight to see this or the courage to implement it.
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    The real issue is poor governance and bad decision making over a long period of time made by a board of dubious ability. Blaming staff and making them bear the consequences is unjust and won't rescue Fonterra.

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