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    All aboard the dairy express. The train is about to leave the station

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    https://www.nzx.com/companies/SML/announcements/270509

    Not good, but I like the spin "prioritising payments to suppliers........."

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    I think it looks good, there is massive potential in 2016 which should kick in quite quickly. I think overall, they have laid out the plan for 2016 quite well and communicated a lot better than previous reports. Its clear, 2016 will be a massive year and I like the guidance that profitability will be higher than anything thus far. Profitability plus increase in volume is a very good combination.

    They have quite a lot of debt compared to earnings but GP and EBIT looks good. I see significantly higher profits and stronger cashflows in 2016. I'm considering buying more SML today and consider it the best dairy investment in NZ right now.

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    Good luck

    All I see is Synlait continuing to sell their dream rather than reality, as they have for 3 years. Sales have always fallen short and this trend continues. Now they have more debt, China is a much tougher market, commodities are at 10 year lows, Europe is expanding export formula manufacture.

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    Wouldn't touch them. PE of 28???. All show no do

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    Quote Originally Posted by xafalcon View Post
    Good luck

    All I see is Synlait continuing to sell their dream rather than reality, as they have for 3 years. Sales have always fallen short and this trend continues. Now they have more debt, China is a much tougher market, commodities are at 10 year lows, Europe is expanding export formula manufacture.
    It's clear you are bearish on SML and have been for a while so its not a surprise today to see your view.

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    Better than I was expecting considering this years dairy economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasi Goreng View Post
    It's clear you are bearish on SML and have been for a while so its not a surprise today to see your view.
    Maybe he is just being more realistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by horus1 View Post
    Wouldn't touch them. PE of 28???. All show no do
    OK - lets see.

    forward PE is 17.2 with a 13% CAGR. Does not look that bad, does it?

    Revenue was actually $10 million above analyst consensus, admittedly EPS about 1 cent below forecast (after a terrible year for milk price). They managed to better utilise their last year still quite under employed factory (now working in 2 shifts and hiring the third shift) and managed to focus on longterm better paying niche products (vs. Fonterra's commodity strategy).

    Given that large investments came only recently online, should we expect a nice payback starting this year ... and together with a stabilised (and likely growing) milk price would I (and do the analysts) expect a quite significant growth for 2016 and 2017.

    Lower NZD and significantly increased market diversity should help as well - Actually, it was quite pleasing to see how they managed to compensate for the loss of the Chinese market (down from 30% to 10%).

    Sure - there still might be SP volatility, but overall wouldn't I write off this solid looking company.

    Discl: holding some (admittedly as well in support of the local industry in the district) which I bought below todays SP and consider as "accumulate on dips"; DYOR;
    Last edited by BlackPeter; 23-09-2015 at 09:34 AM. Reason: added paragraph around increased market diversity
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    Default AGM impressions ...

    AGM yesterday - and I couldn't resist the chance to visit their premises. AGM felt quite positive and relaxed. As well interesting to have an opportunity to look at their factory. While all the fizz has been already released to the NZX (i.e. no need to repeat) - here are some of my impressions and observations (in no particular order):

    Good attendance (certainly better than last year where it was still off site). Maybe around one hundred share holders?

    All board members attending, but not all of them at all times focussed on the meeting. kept their smart phones busy during the presentations.

    Very young new director - Albert Lu (33yrs) appointed by Bright Dairies. Good to see a younger face around the board table - and hey, he appeared to be even focussed on the AGM proceedings (in contrast to some of his older peers).

    Amazing company growth over the last year - staff increased from 200 to 360 (and by now nearly 400); Must be an interesting challenge to integrate all these new people into the workplace. Good processes?

    I learned that the milk price is linked to the oil price. This is how it goes: cheap oil means less need for ethanol (to mix into the oil), less need for grain (to produce the ethanol), which means grain is cheaper and can be used to feed cows (well, in other parts of the world), which means that these grain feeding farmers can sell cheaper milk. Interesting. So its the Saudis, which cause all the trouble in the world milk markets. Did you know that?

    On the other hand - Synlait's margins are not really correlated to the milk price (more to the volume processed) - i.e. it does not really matter that much for Synlait where the milk price is.

    They managed to produce this year about half of the lactoferrin they planned for and sold it for roughly half the price they intended to. Ouch ... Expect however production (but not the price) to double this year. Maybe SML pushed too much lactoferrin too fast into the market (they are one of the big producers)?

    Expect most growth from A2 milk and "grass fed milk" for Munchkin ...

    Very high debt to EBIT ratio (6.4) ... as well addressed in a question from the share holder association. Seems they feel comfortable with it, and some of the debt are only timing issues (they paid their suppliers early during the bad times) and indicated that they are within the (not disclosed) banking covenants. Expect to have passed peak debt and to reduce over the next years. Renegotiated banking facility and pushed average loan duration from something like 1.3 years to something like 3.5 years (form memory, but should be in the presentation).

    One shareholder question referred to the recent animal cruelty publicity. Answer: while they obviously can't control everything their suppliers are doing, they do have a policy on animal welfare;

    Factory tour: indications for lean working environment everywhere (open office space - even the CEO works in the open plan area), plenty of white boards and corridor walls are full with stickers and improvement ideas; important production data are in real time visible to all on big screens;

    Canning line (sorry, no photo's allowed) looks cool - amazing what robots can do ... though they still seem to work on achieving the designed for throughput.

    Huge towers, parts of the plant look like a refinery (well, they do refine mik, don't they?) and lots of milk powder (canned and bagged) everywhere. Latter might be an opportunity to improve (lean manufacturing and storage), but might be difficult, though. I guess they can't just open and close the milk tap on the farm ...?)

    Overall impression: not everything is perfect yet, but good overall impression - and it felt that the team is capable doing its job and loving to do it. Looking forward to next years AGM ... and a somewhat appreciated share price.
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