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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyTheClown View Post
    If it's allright, I reserve the right to take up the shares which you won't be applying for :-)
    With the announcement that Bright Dairy will not be subscribing to any new shares they are going to be diluted back under 50% and the chances are the company will become majority owned by NZer's again. ( Although Mitsui of Japan will own approx 11% ) so maybe not . Ahh darn it , thought we might put the China-phobes to bed for good on this one !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyTheClown View Post
    If it's allright, I reserve the right to take up the shares which you won't be applying for :-)
    Off course it's allright.!!!
    But take care.!!!! lol.
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    I will be into this as well, subject to seeing who they appoint to the board to replace the oversupply of Bright directors.

    worked with Milne when he was contracted as a 'neutral' CEO during the Richmond takeover stoush with PPCS- all round good guy

    Percy, I guess you could say, quite correctly, that RR isn't a Bright director

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerof View Post
    I will be into this as well, subject to seeing who they appoint to the board to replace the oversupply of Bright directors.

    worked with Milne when he was contracted as a 'neutral' CEO during the Richmond takeover stoush with PPCS- all round good guy

    Percy, I guess you could say, quite correctly, that RR isn't a Bright director
    Right on the button.!!!! lol.
    Pleasing to know your opinion of Milne.
    Sparky.I have been known to change my mind? !

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    Presumably, nothing will change in respect of the separate ownership of the company that owns the farms who supply Synlait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Presumably, nothing will change in respect of the separate ownership of the company that owns the farms who supply Synlait?
    The largest shareholders in Synlait Milk prior to the IPO besides Bright & Mitsui are the largest Synlait Farms shareholders. With the institutions likely to be "all over this" that will change but the in the Top50 shareholders even post the IPO a large chunk will be big SNLF's holders. These were the part owners of the syndicated farms prior to the amalgamation into the Synlait corporate structure back in 2006

    This will be HOT !!
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    You mean the likes of Armer, Pye and Parker?

    or are they only involved in DHL?
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    So to understand this correctly, there are two companies:
    Correct.

    Refer the earliest posts on this thread.


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    Farmerhamilton, not to worry, I looked up the shareholders at companies office. A range of Mid-canterbury and north island farmers...probably a Milne 'cluster'

    I did note they have appointed Bill Roest to the board on May 8th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerof View Post
    Farmerhamilton, not to worry, I looked up the shareholders at companies office. A range of Mid-canterbury and north island farmers...probably a Milne 'cluster'

    I did note they have appointed Bill Roest to the board on May 8th

    Bright paid $82m for 51% of the equity of Synlait Milk in 2011 ... have they had a 15% annualized return ? Assume they have that would make there equity now worth $108m , Synlait Ltd's stake would be worth $105m. Assume they raise a fresh say $80m ... the value is approaching $300m ....

    Anybody know if $300m would get them straight into the NZX50 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerHamilton View Post
    Bright paid $82m for 51% of the equity of Synlait Milk in 2011 ... have they had a 15% annualized return ? Assume they have that would make there equity now worth $108m , Synlait Ltd's stake would be worth $105m. Assume they raise a fresh say $80m ... the value is approaching $300m ....

    Anybody know if $300m would get them straight into the NZX50 ?
    Hi FH , Think there is a methodology ike it has to be 10 % larger for 3 months than the smallest company in the index. You will probably be able to find this on the NZX website somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerHamilton View Post
    Anybody know if $300m would get them straight into the NZX50 ?
    This thread is a B!tch to search for but is worth its weight in gold:

    http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthr...dex+components

    In short, $300m would get it in at about place 40 but remember MRP, Meridian and Z are to be added in the same timeframe. From memory, you have to place 45th or above to get in (to stop constant changing at the bottom ranks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerHamilton View Post
    Bright paid $82m for 51% of the equity of Synlait Milk in 2011 ... have they had a 15% annualized return ?
    15% annualised return? Bright Dairy would not like be diluted for their share holding if the return is that high. When the controlling shareholder does not want to put more money into Synlait Milk it is a sufficient indication that future is not so bright.

    Some expects the same happy story of Fonterra share floating happen to Synlait Milk. But they are different companies, not only in size but also in performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Hi FH , Think there is a methodology ike it has to be 10 % larger for 3 months than the smallest company in the index. You will probably be able to find this on the NZX website somewhere.
    Just had a quick look , doesn't jump out at me but did notice that the free float is quite important ...

    Bright
    Mitsui
    Penno
    Dingle
    MacLean

    Those five shareholder will probably hold around 60-65% of the shares so it will be interesting to see if the get in the NZX50. I guess it also depends on how much fresh capital they are after. Still no word on that , which is a little odd. Maybe they need to wait to see how many existing shareholders in Synlait Limited will want to sell into the IPO ?

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    Today's payout foercast from Fonterra will be being put into the spreadsheets at Synlait IPO HQ as we speak to give implied returns for next season. This obviously is Synlait Milk's biggest COGS and is crucial for the forcasting of future returns. The falling dollar over the last month is obviously great news but a starting price of $7.00 might be a bit of a surprise. This season ( 2012/13 ) payout staying put will be great news for the current year P&L which may well help the shares to IPO at the upper end of the range when it is set.

    Waiting for the IM with baited breath ....

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