Gold

[JBmurc]

CVR? What?

Down by about 50% in the last year. You've got a strange reason for being 'stoked', unless you like losing money, like your NAV.

I didn't lose money on NAV sparky made round 50% as I paid low teens sold 18.5c

My CVR average is 2.9c which I'm happy with as the position is a large one i.e just out of the top 20....

[Skol]

Hi Skol, I have never heard of Diana Clement, but what next.....financial advice from Mary Holm along the lines of "always consult a financial adviser" or "buy index linked funds".....even when the index is going down. Did Diana mention airline shares?

No but maybe she should have mentioned airline shares, especially the ones I own, VAH.

In the last year VAH +78%, gold -7%.

[JBmurc]

So Skol when gold going crash again .....?

[Skol]

Probably September. Looks about the time when the big descending triangle hypotenuse reaches the opposite side.

Not sure which will go first, gold or silver or both at the same time, either way, glad I don't own any.

VAH up 96% in the last year now.

[JBmurc]

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Billionaire John Paulson raised his stake in an exchange-traded fund tracking the price of gold while selling other stocks during the second quarter, leaving his $21 billion hedge fund with more than 44 percent of its U.S. traded equities tied to bullion.

Paulson & Co. purchased an additional 4.53 million shares of the SPDR Gold Trust, the firm’s largest position, and bought more shares of NovaGold Resources Inc. (NG), according to a Form 13F filed yesterday with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Gold prices posted their biggest declines since 2008 last quarter.

While Paulson trimmed his stake in AngloGold Ashanti Ltd. (ANG) and Gold Fields Ltd. (GFI), sales of energy, financial and auto-parts stocks boosted the relative weighting of gold-related securities in his U.S. stock portfolio to the highest in three years. That’s making the fund more vulnerable to declines in the price of bullion as the hedge-fund manager struggles to reverse record losses last year.

Paulson, 56, has lost 23 percent so far this year in his Gold Fund and 18 percent in the Advantage Plus Fund, in part because of wrong-way bets on mining companies. Advantage Plus, which seeks to profit from corporate events such as takeovers and bankruptcies and uses leverage to amplify returns, declined 51 percent last year.
Concentrated Holdings

Armel Leslie, a spokesman for New York-based Paulson & Co., declined to comment on the filing.

Paulson’s U.S.-listed holdings peaked at $34.3 billion at the end of March 2011, with about $7.7 billion of that amount, or 23 percent, invested in gold related stocks. Since then, the firm’s overall assets have declined more sharply than its investments in the SPDR Gold ETF and gold miners, leaving the funds increasingly exposed to the precious metal.

Paulson had 33 percent of his U.S. stock holdings in gold- related securities at the end of the first quarter and 25 percent a year ago.

The last time his stock portfolio had a bigger concentration in gold-related equities than last quarter was March 2009, when U.S. equities hit bottom. At that time, gold stocks equaled about 46 percent of Paulson’s $9.36 billion in reported U.S. stock holdings.
Best Bet

Gold slumped 4 percent in the second quarter, the biggest quarterly loss since Sept. 30, 2008. Prices fell as European Central Bank President Mario Draghi and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke failed to increase stimulus measures, damping the outlook for global growth and demand for the metal as a hedge against inflation. The price is down 0.1 percent since June 30.
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Paulson, who became a billionaire in 2007 by wagering against the subprime mortgage market, told clients in February that gold is his best long-term bet, serving as protection against currency debasement, rising inflation and a possible breakup of the euro. Gold miners are historically inexpensive, he said at a meeting with investors in April.
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His hedge fund has been buying mining companies as part of the bet on rising gold prices, though losses by the stocks have hurt returns. Paulson added 4 million NovaGold shares, which slumped the most in more than three years last month after Barrick Gold Corp., the world’s biggest producer of the metal, said their Donlin Gold joint venture didn’t meet its investment criteria.
Selling AngloGold

Paulson sold 400,540 American depositary receipts of AngloGold, its second-largest position, and 819,000 ADRs of Gold Fields in the second quarter. The fund disposed of stakes in Anadarko Petroleum Corp., Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc., Medco Health Solutions Inc., El Paso LLC and SunTrust Banks Inc.

Paulson said during a conference call with investors last month that his firm has reduced risk at some of its funds, according to a client, who asked not to be named because the call was private. So-called net exposure in its Advantage funds, which seek to profit from corporate events such as takeovers and bankruptcies, was 11 percent; at the Credit funds it was minus 9 percent; and at the Recovery funds, which bet on assets Paulson believes will benefit from a long-term economic advance, it was 31 percent, the investor said.

The Advantage funds had net exposure of 32 percent as of the end of January, the Credit funds were at 27 percent and the Recovery funds were at 55 percent, according to an annual letter sent to clients in February.

Net exposure is calculated by subtracting the percentage of a hedge fund’s short positions, or bets on falling securities, from its long holdings, or wagers on rising stocks and bonds.

Money managers who oversee more than $100 million in equities must file a Form 13F within 45 days of each quarter’s end to list their U.S.-traded stocks, options and convertible bonds. The filings don’t show non-U.S. securities or how much cash the firms hold.

To contact the reporters on this story: Miles Weiss in Washington at mweiss@bloomberg.net; Kelly Bit in New York at kbit@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Christian Baumgaertel at cbaumgaertel@bloomberg.net

[Skol]

If John Paulson's buying I'd be selling, if I had any.

A good contrarian signal.

[JBmurc]

If John Paulson's buying I'd be selling, if I had any.

A good contrarian signal.

right shall we make this more interesting I reckon Gold will be above 1600 by the years end ,,you go on daily about it crashing so if your right I double my payment to $200 to you thats if also silver stays below $50 but if Gold closes the year out higher than 1600 I win and pay you nothing if Silver isn't above $50(very unlikely at this stage)_ but in a major loss of trust in fiat I could well end up with another $200 from you..

[Skol]

right shall we make this more interesting I reckon Gold will be above 1600 by the years end ,,you go on daily about it crashing so if your right I double my payment to $200 to you thats if also silver stays below $50 but if Gold closes the year out higher than 1600 I win and pay you nothing if Silver isn't above $50(very unlikely at this stage)_ but in a major loss of trust in fiat I could well end up with another $200 from you..

No thanks, the original deal stands. Goldbugs don't have any common sense, anything's likely to happen.

[JBmurc]

No thanks, the original deal stands. Goldbugs don't have any common sense, anything's likely to happen.

LOL I guess after losing to me twice your to scared to back up you convictions against PM as to why I gave you such a huge advantage 5:1 in the Silver bet .....maybe next year we'll set a fairer bet

[Skol]

LOL I guess after losing to me twice your to scared to back up you convictions against PM as to why I gave you such a huge advantage 5:1 in the Silver bet .....maybe next year we'll set a fairer bet

Don't complain about the 'fairer bet', it was your idea.

Silver only has to increase 80% for you to win, don't fret!

Hahahaha