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    Why Frank Giustra is challenging Michael Saylor to a gold vs Bitcoin debate
    Mar 31, 2021
    Guest(s): Frank Giustra Co-founder, The Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership
    Frank Giustra, CEO of Fiore Group, has challenged Michael Saylor, CEO of MicroStrategy, to a public debate on gold versus Bitcoin.
    Giustra told Kitco News that his intent is to help Saylor clarify some of the things he’s said publicly about gold and challenge Saylor’s thesis.
    “I am not a Bitcoin hater. I just think that [Saylor’s] thesis on gold and Bitcoin needs to be explored and I think I would love the opportunity to explore some of the statements that .


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    Yawn... what a waste of time that is...
    Frank who...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crypto Crude View Post
    Yawn... what a waste of time that is...
    Frank who...
    You mean Michael (druggie looking dude) Saylor... who's that guy
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    India's march gold imports surge 471% (yoy) to a record 160 tonnes– govt source
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    I hope bitcoin crashes just so I can see CC eat his own vomit, I mean words.......

    Did you read about the bitcoin newbie who downloaded a fake branded app from the Apple store and lost all his bitcoin?

    And he wasn’t the only one. Cleaned out with no recourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denpal View Post
    I hope bitcoin crashes just so I can see CC eat his own vomit, I mean words.......

    Did you read about the bitcoin newbie who downloaded a fake branded app from the Apple store and lost all his bitcoin?

    And he wasn’t the only one. Cleaned out with no recourse.
    Yes many Crypto posts on twitter include scammers posting trying to con newbies out of their funds/crypto.. all pumping massive returns
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    Quote Originally Posted by denpal View Post
    I hope bitcoin crashes just so I can see CC eat his own vomit, I mean words.......

    Did you read about the bitcoin newbie who downloaded a fake branded app from the Apple store and lost all his bitcoin?

    And he wasn’t the only one. Cleaned out with no recourse.
    😆

    Buddy...


    I'm winning the asx stock picking competition with my 5 cryptos (unofficially) two years in a row!!!....
    And with my techniques I could win it 3 in a row 🏆✌ or more... why? Because not asset class can return like crypto does...

    Has anyone won it twice in a row?...

    Book it up...

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    Chin up Denpal,
    Make the most of these financial loopholes while it lasts...
    Let the good times roll...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crypto Crude View Post
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    Buddy...


    I'm winning the asx stock picking competition with my 5 cryptos (unofficially) two years in a row!!!....
    And with my techniques I could win it 3 in a row ��✌ or more... why? Because not asset class can return like crypto does...

    Has anyone won it twice in a row?...

    Book it up...

    ...
    Chin up Denpal,
    Make the most of these financial loopholes while it lasts...
    Let the good times roll...
    Right I can't recall your 2020 ASX picks and don't see you in the latest COMP ...but as you are 100% focused on one sub-sector of the TECH sector not very diverse

    you should remember

    "When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognizing euphoria itself"
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    The picks are posting somewhere...
    I'm sitting in 1st place

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    https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/ro...k-ever-pulled/

    Conclusion – The Greatest Trick ever Pulled
    Manipulating gold and silver prices by spoofing futures trades and cancelling them is one thing. Central bank intervention into physical gold markets to dampen the gold price is another. But perhaps the most far reaching yet unappreciated method of manipulation is sitting there in plain sight, and that is the very structure of the contemporary ‘gold’ and ‘silver’ markets where by trading in vast quantities of fractionally-backed synthetic gold and silver credit, be it in the form of vast quantities of that are ‘gold’ or ‘silver’ in name only, or in the form of gold and silver futures which haven’t the slightest connection with CME approved precious metals vaults and warehouses.

    By siphoning off demand for real gold and silver and channeling it into unbacked or fractionally-backed credits and futures, the central banks and their bullion bank counterparts have done an amazing job in creating an entire market structure of futures and synthetics trading that is unconnected to the physical gold and silver markets. This structure siphons off demand away from the physical precious metals markets, and in doing so, creates a system of price discovery which is nothing to do with physical gold and silver supply and demand.

    Apart from fractional-reserve banking, precious metals market structure is perhaps one of the biggest cons on the planet. So next time you think of precious metals manipulation, remember that in addition to spoofing and secretive central bank gold loans, the entire structure of the precious metals markets is unfortunately one big manipulation hiding in plain sight.
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    LOL LOL LOL

    THE most common currency criminals use is the US dollar...
    So will you denounce the US dollar???


    You don't trust bitcoin,
    But the scam in your link has nothing to do with bitcoin...

    There is some real twisted level of thinking around but I think you take the cake...

    LOL 😆🤣😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crypto Crude View Post
    LOL LOL LOL

    THE most common currency criminals use is the US dollar...
    So will you denounce the US dollar???


    You don't trust bitcoin,
    But the scam in your link has nothing to do with bitcoin...

    There is some real twisted level of thinking around but I think you take the cake...

    LOL ������
    You're in serious denial, what do you mean bitcoin exchanges have nothing to do with bitcoin? And what about this: "In early April, Turkey’s Central Bank has banned cryptocurrencies as a form of payment from April 30, and the country has prohibited payment and electronic money institutions from mediating money transfers to cryptocurrency platforms". That is what I would call sovereign risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denpal View Post
    You're in serious denial, what do you mean bitcoin exchanges have nothing to do with bitcoin? And what about this: "In early April, Turkey’s Central Bank has banned cryptocurrencies as a form of payment from April 30, and the country has prohibited payment and electronic money institutions from mediating money transfers to cryptocurrency platforms". That is what I would call sovereign risk.
    Dude,
    You are in serious denpial here 😆🤣😂...
    You are about to get carved out....
    You never learn... I end up going around in circles with you trying to explain simple things and you keep coming back to the same dumb argument...over and over now...
    At least come up with new debates...
    ....
    Bitcoin is not the scam, it's only the medium of exchange to facilitate the scam !!!.. huge difference... for example,
    Bernie Madoff ripped investors off billions of US dollars of currency worth...65 billion US dollars worth and the biggest ponzi scam of all time... that does not make the US dollar the scam... the scam was Bernie Madoff...
    ...
    Do you understand now?
    ...
    ...
    And also,
    Forget about Turkey man... they pose no real significance to anything...you wouldn't even get a carved Christmas lunch out of them...
    .... Turkey has now been recognized for the Armenian Genocide during World War 1...
    You should focus on that...


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    You got smoked....

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    USA markets down slightly gold down slightly, I thought that gold acted inversely to the stockmarket but it seems like big flows of liquidity sloshing in and out of everything depending on the mood of the day.

    As far as the bitcoin/gold debate, as far as I can tell they are both supposedly alternative currencies that rely on the belief of the general public to have any value. Bitcoin a way better speculation at the moment. Time will tell as both seem risky to me, although I am speculating on gold as I have more belief in it and although something physical in a digital world seems out of date as long as central banks hold it so will I. (actually that is not true, I am going further out the risk curve and speculating on gold miners and a rising gold price rather than holding gold.)

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    Not sure about the reliability of zero hedge they have a definite bent but positive news for gold a new convert.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/sa...asement-dollar

    A few articles about crypto currencies. I wonder how you choose which one is best? Plenty of options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Not sure about the reliability of zero hedge they have a definite bent but positive news for gold a new convert.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/sa...asement-dollar

    A few articles about crypto currencies. I wonder how you choose which one is best? Plenty of options.
    Yeah I always listen to "Sam Zell" on CNBC makes plenty of sense in a nonsensical world at present.. I agree with want he said in the interview..

    .. EV and everything attached to infrastructure + Green Energy will do very well ..so resources like Copper-Silver-Lithium-Zinc-Halloysite ...

    Today we just ordered a new SUV KIA SORENTO ... have to wait till AUG/SEPT ... the dealer we ordered through they have orders for 50+ new Sorento's for the last couple weeks ... all waiting for the KIA Factory .. sounds like chip shortages

    and guess whats needed for Computer chips -http://www.nma.org/pdf/m_computer.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post


    and guess whats needed for Computer chips -http://www.nma.org/pdf/m_computer.pdf
    Kia Sorrento is on my short list for when I get around to replacing my current 16 year old suv! I always go for gold tipped connectors - they keep well in high humidity Auckland!

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