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    Quote Originally Posted by hardt View Post
    Who is to say Healthcare Partners could not have done a better job?
    Fair enough ... seems at this stage difficult to imagine anybody could have done a worse job. We probably will never know unless ... they wait another couple of days and make another offer just shy of $4?
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    Down again , not the flavour of the week, big regigging of the financials having to take place with ABA before the market can settle on a value here imo!

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    David Bridgeman article in NZ Herald would not have helped;
    "Abano drills into uncomfortable territory with dental backtrack."

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    What a mess !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    What a mess !!
    Yes it seems an impending train wreck

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12217257

    Love the bit about the strategic review and hope they 'wont find any more cavities' ....I reckon they will and that extractions will be necessary
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    Suggest you read Percy's last post as it is very relevant.
    ALSO
    (1) NPAT includes profit on sale of subsidiary-2.1m.For comparison purposes you need to exclude this & adjusted NPAT is $10.7m,down 4%
    (2) 4.2m new shares were issued to fund its purchases of new businesses.Very importantly EPS has fallen 20% from 51.8 to 41.7
    (3)This puts the PE on 21
    (4)In addition to the share issue it received 17m from the sale of its subsidiary-cash on hand at year end was only $7-where is future funding coming from?
    (5) Goodwill in BS stands at $227m.It has paid roughly $1m goodwill per business purchased.Each business contributes approx $47,000 npat per annum
    so it will take about 20yrs profits to cover the goodwill.
    (6) In the last yr it paid $38m in goodwill for 19 businesses.
    (7) ROE was 7.7%
    It really needs to be achieving a much better profit for each practice.The worry could come with goodwill writedowns for non performing businesses.Goodwill in
    the books exceeds Equity.
    Just my thoughts.
    My post from August.. a big problem now is $220m in goodwill sitting in the books with write-offs coming.
    NTA/share of -$4.08. Yes MINUS!
    Basically they have been paying far too much for the businesses.I wonder if it can survive?

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    So 32% slashed off the share price since announcement

    Recent performance suggested a share price with a 3 in front of it was inevitable

    Wonder what next week brings
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    So 32% slashed off the share price since announcement

    Recent performance suggested a share price with a 3 in front of it was inevitable

    Wonder what next week brings
    Relatively new chairman Philippa has had a few hospital passes ...this one to go with Solid and First Gas.

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    Wowee those guys at Forsyth picked it well yet again... similar to EVO (right before it fell off a cliff), on 10th October Forsyth (when the share price was $8.20) sent out a note to remove Abano Healthcare from their 'conviction list', although they mentioned they were still positive on the stock and the same day released a report with a target price of $10.25.

    Just under 6 months later the share price is $3.90 (and they, on 27th march 2019, now have a target price of $5.75)

    A kick in the teeth all round.

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    Share price way back up ...maybe like the phoenix rising from the ashes
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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