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    You going to have a punt then BlackPeter
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Wow - SP at $1.14 more than 60% down compared to its peak value of $2.90 in May 2016 - and basically a textbook downwards slope since then.

    Attachment 10259

    Average (backward) PE is now 11.3 - still not really cheap, particularly considering that we might move into PE contraction territory.

    On the other hand - for the right competitor they might move into takeover territory. At what time are they cheap enough for a clued up overseas competitor to just buy the lot for a song and show the NZ healthcare system how efficient pharmacies could be operated?

    Assuming they won't run NZ largest pharmacy chain (with some other health ad - ons) into the ground - where is the bottom PE? At 10? At 5? And will these margins continue to shrink given that any newcomer will be cheaper and better. Hard not to.
    You need to research the largest shareholder.[controlling interest].
    It is a joint venture between Andrew Bagnell and Peter Merton,who look to have premptive rights on each other's shareholding.
    Then you have to research who Peter Merton holds for.Himself or Zuelig?
    Then look at what company Zuelig holds 40% of.
    If you find it is Ebos then you are on the right track.
    At this point in time you would most probably be right to think EBO already controls GXH,as well as being their major supplier.
    My guess if Andrew Bagnell ever wants out, then EBO will take it over.
    Otherwise, should EBO decide there are more benefits for them to have, they will make a takeover bid for GXH.
    Note Zuelig representitive and EBO director Peter Williams is a GXH director.
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    You need to research the largest shareholder.[controlling interest].
    It is a joint venture between Andrew Bagnell and Peter Merton,who look to have premptive rights on each other's shareholding.
    Then you have to research who Peter Merton holds for.Himself or Zuelig?
    Then look at what company Zuelig holds 40% of.
    If you find it is Ebos then you are on the right track.
    At this point in time you would most probably be right to think EBO already controls GXH,as well as being their major supplier.
    My guess if Andrew Bagnell ever wants out, then EBO will take it over.
    Otherwise, should EBO decide there are more benefits for them to have, they will make a takeover bid for GXH.
    Note Zuelig representitive and EBO director Peter Williams is a GXH director.
    Interesting - EBOS market cap is 20 times the size of GXH. A takeover certainly wouldn't be a problem for them, but than - FMA might intervene ...

    Unfortunate situation for the remaining retail shareholders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Interesting - EBOS market cap is 20 times the size of GXH. A takeover certainly wouldn't be a problem for them, but than - FMA might intervene ...

    Unfortunate situation for the remaining retail shareholders.
    Any takeover will probably be one of those dastardly Scheme of Arrangement things with the Independent Directors recommending the deal at some price perceived to be cheap as (a steal in other words)

    You’ll hate that BP so best to avoid getting involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    You need to research the largest shareholder.[controlling interest].
    It is a joint venture between Andrew Bagnell and Peter Merton,who look to have premptive rights on each other's shareholding.
    Then you have to research who Peter Merton holds for.Himself or Zuelig?
    Then look at what company Zuelig holds 40% of.
    If you find it is Ebos then you are on the right track.
    At this point in time you would most probably be right to think EBO already controls GXH,as well as being their major supplier.
    My guess if Andrew Bagnell ever wants out, then EBO will take it over.
    Otherwise, should EBO decide there are more benefits for them to have, they will make a takeover bid for GXH.
    Note Zuelig representitive and EBO director Peter Williams is a GXH director.
    Great info Percy, much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    You need to research the largest shareholder.[controlling interest].
    It is a joint venture between Andrew Bagnell and Peter Merton,who look to have premptive rights on each other's shareholding.
    Then you have to research who Peter Merton holds for.Himself or Zuelig?
    Then look at what company Zuelig holds 40% of.
    If you find it is Ebos then you are on the right track.
    At this point in time you would most probably be right to think EBO already controls GXH,as well as being their major supplier.
    My guess if Andrew Bagnell ever wants out, then EBO will take it over.
    Otherwise, should EBO decide there are more benefits for them to have, they will make a takeover bid for GXH.
    Note Zuelig representitive and EBO director Peter Williams is a GXH director.
    Thanks for sharing Percy, great researching, really helpful info

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12202567

    Hard to get excited about this stock with this kind of news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12202567

    Hard to get excited about this stock with this kind of news!
    NZ Pharmacies quite inefficient compared to many other countries. Where else would they ask a customer during a quiet time to wait 15 min to dispense their prescription medicine?

    About time competitors moving in and creating a bit of excitement ...
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    more big competition

    more competition with the arrival of cut-price operator Bargain Chemist

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111308458/cut-price-bargain-chemist-moves-into-central-wellington
    bull

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