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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11794238

    nice article by gaynor.

    diffenately nzx does nothing to encourage listings and liquidity is a joke most of the time as well. get a real exchange
    Extremely rich coming from Brian Gaynor - he was effusive in his support and praise of the NZX under the 'leadership' of Mark Weldon.

    Weldon was the architect of the NZX as it is today - a fee gouging and service minimization entity with no consideration whatsoever of its wider role as a facilitator of capital flows through the NZ economy.

    As long as the NZX sp was going up, the likes of Brian Gaynor could not be happier - and happy to be blind and oblivious to the problems and flaws already clear to objective observers. Even Weldon's dictatorial staff management style (his way, right or wrong, or the highway) was considered to be completely acceptable.

    Now that the NZX sp has gone nowhere and the NZX looks bereft of any ideas, and the goose has come home to roost, without the ability to lay any more golden eggs, Mr Gaynor is bringing out the violin to cry out a soulful tune.

    All too late. The harm has been done and it is going to take a long long time for the NZX to regain credibility as an exchange worthy of support.

    The anguish cry of Mr Bennett for New Zealand companies to support the NZX as it was patriotic to do so - that was the cry of surrender.
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    Insightful comments from NBR readers :

    Reminds one of Telecom - abuse of its monopoly to milk profits from NZers in favour of its American masters. Took Helen Clark to break that disgraceful monopoly - and NZ is still years behind countries like Korea and Vietnam.

    NZX needs the same sort of surgical strike by the government.

    Hit the nail on the head here.

    Monopoly pricing, to drive up short term profit, during Weldon's tenure only served his interests. The board were more than asleep at the wheel, ignorant or short focused themselves.

    How could you possibly grow a business, where the entry and ongoing costs are too high. This is the main reason the only companies that go public these days tend to be overpriced, with former owners using the listing as an exit hatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Insightful comments from NBR readers :

    Reminds one of Telecom - abuse of its monopoly to milk profits from NZers in favour of its American masters. Took Helen Clark to break that disgraceful monopoly - and NZ is still years behind countries like Korea and Vietnam.

    NZX needs the same sort of surgical strike by the government.

    Hit the nail on the head here.

    Monopoly pricing, to drive up short term profit, during Weldon's tenure only served his interests. The board were more than asleep at the wheel, ignorant or short focused themselves.

    How could you possibly grow a business, where the entry and ongoing costs are too high. This is the main reason the only companies that go public these days tend to be overpriced, with former owners using the listing as an exit hatch.
    here here spot on short term profits before long term welfare of the markets, the make up of the exchange is against the basic principles of how an exchange should work.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8945...-disappointing

    keep this up and we will have to rename the index maybe nzx30?
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    Indeed, a number of commentators anticipate a rather large NZEXIT if something is not done soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    here here spot on short term profits before long term welfare of the markets, the make up of the exchange is against the basic principles of how an exchange should work. corrupt practices range right thru the supply chain.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8945...-disappointing

    keep this up and we will have to rename the index maybe nzx30?
    Bunch of self-serving directors on the board, pre-occupied with their fees, share gains and own positions than with the greater good and health of the market - which ultimately will be good for the NZX.

    Time for NZX (and government) to boot out the self-serving directors - especially the ONE who supported Weldon through his rampage of HR disasters, leaving the NZX bereft of experience, talent and continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Bunch of self-serving directors on the board, pre-occupied with their fees, share gains and own positions than with the greater good and health of the market - which ultimately will be good for the NZX.

    Time for NZX (and government) to boot out the self-serving directors - especially the ONE who supported Weldon through his rampage of HR disasters, leaving the NZX bereft of experience, talent and continuity.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11819561

    $3m salary plus a bonus payout... this on an NZX ebitda of $22.5m. Disgusting.

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    The NZX is a docile organisation that has been asleep at the wheel for a number of decades. It makes little effort to promote itself to business owners and investors, particularly compared with the ASX and other global exchanges

    Funny had to laugh when I read this from brian gaynor article below

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11863859
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    The NZX is a docile organisation that has been asleep at the wheel for a number of decades. It makes little effort to promote itself to business owners and investors, particularly compared with the ASX and other global exchanges

    Funny had to laugh when I read this from brian gaynor article below

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11863859
    Shots fired

    "The other negative consequence of our low level of IPOs is that there is a shortage of domestic investment opportunities, particularly as far as KiwiSaver funds are concerned. As a consequence, KiwiSaver funds will have to invest more and more of their money offshore unless they start purchasing residential property."

    Thats the sad reality unfortunately.

    Is the lack of IPO's also because there are not many "good" emerging businesses in NZ or because market participation is pretty poor? I mean ASX has a value of about 1.9 trillion, which is almost double our property market, from a quick google search i see the Australian residential property market was around 6.5 trillion in 2016. So their property market is just over 3 times more than the value of the ASX. Comparatively that is a hell of a lot closer than the 32 times Brian mentioned in the article. Again is that because we actually don't have a high number of valuable companies? Or a perception by kiwis that the stock market is not a viable place to invest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    The NZX is a docile organisation that has been asleep at the wheel for a number of decades. It makes little effort to promote itself to business owners and investors, particularly compared with the ASX and other global exchanges

    Funny had to laugh when I read this from brian gaynor article below

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11863859
    Brian Gaynor - the very same individual who thought the sun shone out of Mark Weldon's backside while Mark gutted the NZX with ever increasing monopolistic charges but ever decreasing services and hired and fired executives with impunity and with zero consideration for continuity & experience (such was his insecurity that someone else will show him for what he really is).

    Milford's stake in NZX was going up in price, see? So nothing else mattered.

    No point crying crocodile tears now, Mr Gaynor. You along with others (especially the sleeping Board led by Harmos) encouraged and praised Mr Weldon (breath of fresh air I think were the words you used to describe his shenanigans of plucking the goose which laid the golden eggs) to high heavens - until Clear Grain and Media Works revealed to all what was really happening.

    Best thing to happen to NZX now is to become a subsidiary of ASX - if ASX doesn't die of derision first! BHP alone is bigger than the whole NZX!
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    here here balance , reckon the funds management industry really need to stand up and pressure the nzx to make the exchange a more viable pathway for businesses to follow.
    I see the ASX is now actively courting international companies to list on there exchange.
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