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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Didn’t have one of those red flag ‘Price Sensitive’ things .....need one of those when Jeff says profit going to be $70m odd
    Agreed...................

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    I met a one-legged Asian girl once in Cambodia - shall I get her CV?

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    QUOTE=dabsman;700895]I met a one-legged Asian girl once in Cambodia - shall I get her CV?[/QUOTE]

    Said her CV to Winner69.
    Sure his mate at Co-Op Bank will be excited to employ her.

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    A quote from Chris Lee's "Taking Stock" (published Jan 25th).
    Link to wider article: https://www.chrislee.co.nz/taking-stock

    He obviously does not think much of HBL as a "quality" issuer...

    WHEN Fisher & Paykel Finance was sold to an Australian fund manager NZ investors in finance company debentures were left with a realistic menu of one.
    The remaining option for those who use tap issues from finance companies was one – UDC Finance.
    Then the owner of UDC, the ANZ Bank, announced it had sold UDC to a Chinese conglomerate (HNA), with an airline base.
    Then there were none.
    However the ANZ/HNA deal was never consummated and UDC now reverts to being at least temporarily available, hopefully until someone, like Heartland Bank, buys the book at a banker’s price, rather than an entrepreneur’s price.
    After that there again would be none, if one categorises as ‘’useable’’ only those companies with long histories, strong shareholders and credit ratings (preferably).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    A quote from Chris Lee's "Taking Stock" (published Jan 25th).
    Link to wider article: https://www.chrislee.co.nz/taking-stock
    Chris who?

    Got to the part about Alan Hawkins before nodding off. Great bloke - made me loads out of Equiticorp in the day - got me securely on the housing ladder at the time. With the obvious rider "You've got to know when to hold 'em. Know when to fold 'em"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    A quote from Chris Lee's "Taking Stock" (published Jan 25th).
    Link to wider article: https://www.chrislee.co.nz/taking-stock

    He obviously does not think much of HBL as a "quality" issuer...

    [FONT="]WHEN Fisher & Paykel Finance was sold to an Australian fund manager NZ investors in finance company debentures were left with a realistic menu of one.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]The remaining option for those who use tap issues from finance companies was one – UDC Finance.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Then the owner of UDC, the ANZ Bank, announced it had sold UDC to a Chinese conglomerate (HNA), with an airline base.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Then there were none.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]However the ANZ/HNA deal was never consummated and UDC now reverts to being at least temporarily available, hopefully until someone, like Heartland Bank, buys the book at a banker’s price, rather than an entrepreneur’s price.[/FONT]
    After that there again would be none, if one categorises as ‘’useable’’ only those companies with long histories, strong shareholders and credit ratings (preferably).
    I read it differently.
    After UDC is sold there will be no quality "FINANCE" company issuer.
    I would also point out that Chris Lee's company have been strong supporters of Heartland Bank.Michael Worrington is a shareholder,and I am sure Chris Lee and Kevin Gloag are also shareholders.Kevin Gloag has followed Heartland very closely.
    I seem to remember Chris Lee thought it was a great idea to merge Heartland,UDC and TSB.?

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    Ahhh..."Finance" company. That makes more sense, thanks percy. (Note to self: Must. Get. Better. Brain.)
    Yes, I had thought that they were supporters of the consolidation that formed HBL in the first place...hence the comment piquing my interest.

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    Would a kind poster please post the link to www.Chrislee.co.nz taking stock.
    His view on Heartland remains positive,and has interesting thoughts on HBL/UDC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    Ahhh..."Finance" company. That makes more sense, thanks percy. (Note to self: Must. Get. Better. Brain.)
    Yes, I had thought that they were supporters of the consolidation that formed HBL in the first place...hence the comment piquing my interest.
    https://www.chrislee.co.nz/taking-stock
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    half year announcement due today... hopefully we are still "well positioned" as percy would say.

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