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    Good profit in a low interest rate environment. Imagine how good it will be when they actually increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Good profit in a low interest rate environment. Imagine how good it will be when they actually increase.
    That's why I bought myself some Harmoney yesterday. Let's see how that goes from some quite depressed prices currently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Can't argue with that. He does what he says he is going to do. What it shows is a deep understanding of the business and its drivers. Either that or some "creative bookkeeping" through provisions.... Thanks for sharing.
    Probably a bit of both to be fair.

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    Hmm can Heartland run their own kiwisaver scheme or wouldn't it be worthwhile for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Can't argue with that. He does what he says he is going to do. What it shows is a deep understanding of the business and its drivers. Either that or some "creative bookkeeping" through provisions.... Thanks for sharing.
    It is quite "interesting" how they can project forward a whole year ahead what the profit will be and more often than not get it pretty spot on. You could very easily be forgiven for thinking some variations in their bad and doubtful debts provisioning methodologies occur from one year to another to make the numbers fit which kind of makes me wonder why bother with such a modest forecast upgrade ? (Not that I am complaining, disc: I have truckloads). Anyway...in August 2021 when they report a profit we already know for FY21 we get to know what FY22's profit will be and that's pretty cool no matter how you slice and dice this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    It is quite "interesting" how they can project forward a whole year ahead what the profit will be and more often than not get it pretty spot on. You could very easily be forgiven for thinking some variations in their bad and doubtful debts provisioning methodologies occur from one year to another to make the numbers fit which kind of makes me wonder why bother with such a modest forecast upgrade ? (Not that I am complaining, disc: I have truckloads). Anyway...in August 2021 when they report a profit we already know for FY21 we get to know what FY22's profit will be and that's pretty cool no matter how you slice and dice this.
    The master of profit smoothing was Jack Welch at GE --- chart below proves that

    Maybe Jeff learnt a few tricks from him.

    Its actually a hard thing to do well because you need to remember whats in each little hidey hole - I've seen a few attempts at it fail big time

    In GE's case Jack's successor had to unwind a few things
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    Some investors however do see 'smoothness' of earnings as a red flag

    But I've long admired Jeff's ability at it
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    Yes quite a contrast to smooth or not to smooth

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Some investors however do see 'smoothness' of earnings as a red flag

    But I've long admired Jeff's ability at it
    In a world full of rough seas smooth is a refreshing change. Huge ups and downs are no good for the heart rate, see 16 second mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8qBvw3ofyE
    I like the boat but those conditions are for younger and keener blokes than me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    It is quite "interesting" how they can project forward a whole year ahead what the profit will be and more often than not get it pretty spot on.
    You must be repetitively well "impressed" then with how the chinese "Govt" does it with their GDP.

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