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    Quote Originally Posted by newbieinvestor View Post
    When is the next result expected to be made available..? Will be interesting to see how they account for HMY shares like Josh mentioned....
    End August ...date TBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by alokdhir View Post
    End August ...date TBA
    Thanks Alokdhir! .. Yeah HGH's holding HMY getting hammered on the ASX...
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    Guess HGH will have to do a huge write down on HMY. Then report 'normalised earnings'. Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    Guess HGH will have to do a huge write down on HMY. Then report 'normalised earnings'. Fair enough
    Jeff says $93m to $96m which means it'll be about $95.4m

    The calculation involving escrow, spreads, volatility, trading patterns etc etc will no doubt mean HMY stake will be written down a bit ..... but he has the covid overlay and a few other things in the bottom drawer so things will be OK

    Anyway whatever HMY is written down buy will only mean huge gains in F23 and F24 eh
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Jeff says $93m to $96m which means it'll be about $95.4m

    The calculation involving escrow, spreads, volatility, trading patterns etc etc will no doubt mean HMY stake will be written down a bit ..... but he has the covid overlay and a few other things in the bottom drawer so things will be OK

    Anyway whatever HMY is written down buy will only mean huge gains in F23 and F24 eh
    So use current bottom draw stuff to cover HMY.
    Then HMY becomes next bottom draw stuff

    Nice, i like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    So use current bottom draw stuff to cover HMY.
    Then HMY becomes next bottom draw stuff

    Nice, i like it.
    recycling bottom drawer stuff?


    wonder whether when the market hears of a HMY write down, if the HGH stock will dip further ....
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    HGH hold 8518864 shares in HMY. Was valued at A$1.91 (by memory) so au$16.2m at last reported date.
    HMY now au$0.895 x 8518864 shares = au$7.6m current value.

    au$8.6m drop in valuation.

    The covid overlay is $6.9m?

    Wonder is Jeff wanted to keep some of that covid overlay for actual covid related loans in arrears. But now HMY is buggering that up

    How big is the bottom draw?
    Last edited by Rawz; 08-06-2022 at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Jeff says $93m to $96m which means it'll be about $95.4m

    The calculation involving escrow, spreads, volatility, trading patterns etc etc will no doubt mean HMY stake will be written down a bit ..... but he has the covid overlay and a few other things in the bottom drawer so things will be OK

    Anyway whatever HMY is written down buy will only mean huge gains in F23 and F24 eh
    As long as dividends keep coming on expected track of 1 cent boost every year ...then its a great buy now ...if dividends under threat then all bets are off

    W69 ...whats your take on future dividend security here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alokdhir View Post
    As long as dividends keep coming on expected track of 1 cent boost every year ...then its a great buy now ...if dividends under threat then all bets are off

    W69 ...whats your take on future dividend security here ?
    Not held back by RBNZ now so could even expect a bit of a boost / catch up this year and then back to normality
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    I really think the issue with HMY is liquidity. It is far to easy to lower the price with the use of a little cash and it could be a very clever way to get some cheaper HGH.

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