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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Heartland is but another of the many NZ companies which think they can duplicate their successes in NZ and venture into Australia.

    Let’s see :

    Telecom
    The Warehouse
    Air NZ
    FBU
    Tower
    Pumpkin Patch
    Restaurant Brands
    Zintel
    BNZ
    NZI

    There are others but enough to know the companies above went over and got their backside kicked all the way back into NZ.

    Why do they do it? Ego and naivety.
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    You Forgot their biggest asset H M Y !! they really bucked the trend not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muse View Post
    It's fair to observe a number of Kiwi's have cocked up in Australia, and to pin that on naivety and ego as a root cause.

    But likewise good to celebrate the successes too.

    Smartpay
    Hallenstein Glassons
    EBOS
    Mainfreight
    Vulcan Steel
    And I'd even chuck in Michael Hill and KMD - even though they are stuck in the macro rut - with +50% sales in Australia now they would be weaker if not for their trans-tasman expansion. These are just currently listed companies - can't be bothered to think of those that have been taken over.

    To get it right you need to have some form of competitive advantage. You can't just waltz into Australia with a vanilla offering in a competitive market and think you'll get a look in. Likewise you can't make it a success if you run it from New Zealand, install a handful of Kiwi's as local GM's, and think of it as just another business centre akin to the Waikato. Need to play by Aussie rules and give it a lot of focus, time and effort.

    Heartland's Australian RM business is a success. I obviously have my view on the price paid for StockCo and some concerns on the Challenger price, but will be some time before the pieces of the puzzle are in place before we know if it'll be a success, or not.

    Probably does require a bit of Ego to establish a NZ bank in Australia, just as it did to amalgamate a plethora of building societies and consumer books into HBL in 2012. An ego isn't necessarily a problem, if it can be kept in check.
    There's actually quite a few NZ companies that have done well in Aus. Add to your list:

    Vital healthcare
    Xero
    Meridian Energy (several times)
    Trustpower / Tilt Renewables
    Auckland Airport
    Tourism Holdings
    Gentrack & Eroad both sold well into Aus

    Too early to know:

    Ryman
    Seeka
    Heartland

    The key to sucess in Aussie is to go into one state or market first and make it work. Kiwis forget that Australia is far bigger and more diverse than we are.
    Last edited by Jaa; 14-02-2024 at 04:52 PM.

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    Bold headlines in SMH

    NAB earnings tumble, warns arrears are growing

    Hope HGH OK but possibly adds to the poor sector sentiment these daya
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    adds to the poor sector sentiment these daya
    arent ozzy financials up ~20ish % since Nov? punters have been really excited by banks recently. just not HGH....

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    Results announced tomorrow morning. The market is expecting to be sucking a lemon if today's SP action is any guide. Down 11c to $1.15 as I write.
    "Don't be afraid to take a big step if one is indicated. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps." David Lloyd George

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    Almost a certainty that NO DIVIDEND ....rest will know tmrw ...so much for a good yield stock !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pierre View Post
    Down 11c to $1.15 as I write.
    someone wants out fast; just a 'coincidence' that its the day before results? leaky ship eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    someone wants out fast; just a 'coincidence' that its the day before results? leaky ship eh
    Yeah doesnt look good. Cap raise at $1??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    Yeah doesnt look good. Cap raise at $1??
    Last cap raise announced with results
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Between this and OCA I am getting slammed. Feeling like a possum in the headlights!

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