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    Quote Originally Posted by RupertBear View Post
    Slightly off topic sorry but I have just sold a property and need somewhere to park the funds while I wait for another property to come up. Might be next week might be in a few months or even a few years away. Have looked at term deposits and the rates are sooo depressing. Heartland appears to have some of the best and I wondered if anyone uses them to park their money. I am very tempted to put a chunk into some “defensive” shares given interest rates are so horrible but in the current climate and given I may need to access the money within a short time period it is probably more “sensible” to park it in a bank. Be grateful to know where people park their spare money. Thanks in advance
    Put your "property" money on deposit.
    The money made on property is made in the buying,so you need your funds on hand.
    Remember the old sharemarket saying;"A long term investment is a short term one that did not work out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricketfan View Post
    Hmm, I just did this but it doesn't seem to have retained any history, and the returns have been reset to 0%. You'd think this would be handled better..... oh well..
    Hmm.. Need to look at doing this too... Been a bit busy this week due to a new four legged barking machine joining the household..
    Does seem abit of a pain in the arse ..think they could come up with a way to automatically move holdings over to the new ticker code... I assume I have to change my portfolio holding over in ASB securities as well manually ? May ask them about it on Monday..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricketfan View Post
    Hmm, I just did this but it doesn't seem to have retained any history, and the returns have been reset to 0%. You'd think this would be handled better..... oh well..
    I can find the HBL buy, sell and dividend history still under HBL by searching for it and bring it up. Yes not good that it doesn't just automatically change the ticker and name

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I can find the HBL buy, sell and dividend history still under HBL by searching for it and bring it up. Yes not good that it doesn't just automatically change the ticker and name
    Third world problems do stress punters out
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    The problem is that Heartland Bank (HBL) did not change its name to Heartland whatever it is today (HGH).

    Heartland Bank still lives and is the issuer of the HBL010 thingies.

    So, correctly, Heartland Gross overHeads (HGH) is a new company and the NZX et al are treating it as such.

    Luckily I am master of my own software and have treated it as yet another name change with continuity of data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabsman View Post
    Somewhat annoying having to move all my HBL holding to HGH in tracking software/websites etc...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cricketfan View Post
    Hmm, I just did this but it doesn't seem to have retained any history, and the returns have been reset to 0%. You'd think this would be handled better..... oh well..
    Check with percy and winner - they both told me (when I complained) that HBL's latest name and ticker change is the best thing since the invention of sliced bread ... must triple the share price or something.

    I doubt they can help you, but they might be able to cheer you guys up ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Check with percy and winner - they both told me (when I complained) that HBL's latest name and ticker change is the best thing since the invention of sliced bread ... must triple the share price or something.

    I doubt they can help you, but they might be able to cheer you guys up ;
    BP - there’s some things you just don’t get eh
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    Always interesting seeing how much skin directors have in the game.
    Greg Tomlinson has $83.66 mil.............
    Chairman Geoffrey Ricketts [and mates] $20.56 mil.
    Together over $100mil.
    Other directors and management also have large holdings.
    Growth opportunities in Australia.Yes thank you, we will help ourselves to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    Hmm.. Need to look at doing this too... Been a bit busy this week due to a new four legged barking machine joining the household..
    Does seem abit of a pain in the arse ..think they could come up with a way to automatically move holdings over to the new ticker code... I assume I have to change my portfolio holding over in ASB securities as well manually ? May ask them about it on Monday..
    Get the right one mate and its the ultimate investment. I'm convinced one of my dogs that cost $995 is worth $1m now, but I could be "slightly" biased through emotional attachment Some of the "dividends" Basil leaves on the deck aren't especially rewarding though lol
    Not sure what came over me on Friday but I bought a few more of these fancy new group holdings things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Get the right one mate and its the ultimate investment. I'm convinced one of my dogs that cost $995 is worth $1m now, but I could be "slightly" biased through emotional attachment Some of the "dividends" Basil leaves on the deck aren't especially rewarding though lol
    Not sure what came over me on Friday but I bought a few more of these fancy new group holdings things.
    A moment of profound wisdom.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
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    BP - there’s some things you just don’t get eh
    You are probably right. I don't understand everything. Glad though I'm in good company with that problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Get the right one mate and its the ultimate investment. I'm convinced one of my dogs that cost $995 is worth $1m now,
    I think you might be confusing "worth" with "ongoing costs"

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    Global Dairy Trade prices continue to slide. Whole milk powder down nearly 3%

    Prices have been trending down all year with no sign of a turnaround ......just like the Heartland share price
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    Whole Milk Powder price chart looks like the Heartland share price chart

    Up, up and then down down down .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Whole Milk Powder price chart looks like the Heartland share price chart

    Up, up and then down down down .....

    Spooky as
    The strength of the correlation between the two that's existed for a very long period of time is quite remarkable. I think its clear the market is telling us that the financial health of dairy farmers really matters to HGH's future prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    The strength of the correlation between the two that's existed for a very long period of time is quite remarkable. I think its clear the market is telling us that the financial health of dairy farmers really matters to HGH's future prospects.
    From NZ Herald report — Whole milk powder dropped 2.9 per cent to US$2,655 a tonne. That's the lowest price since August 2016, according to NZX dairy analyst Amy Castleton.

    Heartland share price hit $1.54 back in August 2016 ......current share price almost ‘the lowest price since August 2016’ as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    The strength of the correlation between the two that's existed for a very long period of time is quite remarkable. I think its clear the market is telling us that the financial health of dairy farmers really matters to HGH's future prospects.
    Could be because of the name Heartland ......association with heartland NZ and things rural.

    Time for a name change .....and a new ticker code
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Could be because of the name Heartland ......association with heartland NZ and things rural.

    Time for a name change .....and a new ticker code
    A little soon for that joke maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Could be because of the name Heartland ......association with heartland NZ and things rural.

    Time for a name change .....and a new ticker code
    You did beat me to that - I guess who wants anyway to hang around for such a long time with such a boring name just associated with share price drops?

    Maybe they could try instead something like ROC - Rural Online Capital Supply? or how about WRM - West Island Reverse Mortgages?

    Would be one ticker change per month enough to satisfy the fans?

    Relax - I still think they are a good company, but their latest name (and particularly ticker-) change just shows how easy it is for even a good company to lose the focus on what's important ...

    What they really should focus on is better customer access (including online experience), better customer care and probably better marketing. Ticker changes don't help with any of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    From NZ Herald report — Whole milk powder dropped 2.9 per cent to US$2,655 a tonne. That's the lowest price since August 2016, according to NZX dairy analyst Amy Castleton.

    Heartland share price hit $1.54 back in August 2016 ......current share price almost ‘the lowest price since August 2016’ as well

    Spooky
    That was with the old Heartland Bank

    If you look at the chart of the shiny new Heartland Group (like on my ANZ Securities account charts) HGH has only dipped from $1.57 to the current $1.55

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