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    There must be a huge seller in the market right now (hence the depressed share price)... there are (and have been) a lot of sell orders around the $1.15 mark... any idea as to who it would be?

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    Doesn't help to know who really, it's the collective "them"

    but Hoop's chart this morning was a nice perspective of where it's at - retesting the breakdown line out of the channel.

    check if the elephant looks pissed off......

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    Well one broking firm has been "holding itself at the ready."
    Chris Lee & Partners Ltd.
    Market News...27th July 2015.
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    We maintain our mail list for the prospect of subordinated bond offerings from the NZ banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Well one broking firm has been "holding itself at the ready."
    Chris Lee & Partners Ltd.
    Market News...27th July 2015.
    Bank Issues-
    We maintain our mail list for the prospect of subordinated bond offerings from the NZ banks.
    will a bond issue put pressure on the sp or does it attract a different type of investor

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy415 View Post
    will a bond issue put pressure on the sp or does it attract a different type of investor
    Yes I think a different investor or at least a different part of an investors portfolio. Also given that at the same time they are considering a share buy back, I'd expect an upward push on the SP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy415 View Post
    will a bond issue put pressure on the sp or does it attract a different type of investor
    Bonds attract a more conservative type investor generally(Yikes that was me a few years ago) Would have no effect on the share price although it does change the companies liabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Bonds attract a more conservative type investor generally(Yikes that was me a few years ago) Would have no effect on the share price although it does change the companies liabilities.
    Not a Basil 3 compliant issue mate...its treated as capital raised and then they can go and do lovely creative things like a share buy-back of the ordinary shares Does that count as an up-ramp
    Last edited by Beagle; 20-08-2015 at 08:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Not a Basil 3 compliant issue mate...its treated as capital raised and then they can go and do lovely creative things like a share buy-back of the ordinary shares Does that count as an up-ramp
    And buying back shares good,especially with that pile of excessive capital being a drag on the balance sheet.

    Buying back 10% of the shares would increase EPS by more than 1 cent and dividend should increase

    Market uses same valuation ratios and just like that Heartland share worth 12/13 cents more. Yippee

    If a buyback goes ahead my $1.40 becomes $1.50 plus
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Bonds attract a more conservative type investor generally(Yikes that was me a few years ago) Would have no effect on the share price although it does change the companies liabilities.
    Depending on the size of the issue, it could have a significant affect on the share price.
    A large issue means more funds available for the share buyback.
    A share buyback will straight away improve ROE,EPS, and will result in HNZ having the capacity to increase the dividend further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    And buying back shares good,especially with that pile of excessive capital being a drag on the balance sheet.

    Buying back 10% of the shares would increase EPS by more than 1 cent and dividend should increase

    Market uses same valuation ratios and just like that Heartland share worth 12/13 cents more. Yippee

    If a buyback goes ahead my $1.40 becomes $1.50 plus
    Absolutely mate although you're being a little conservative there. If they do a decent sized issue of say $100m plus oversubscriptions there's only 470m shares on issue so they could do a buy-back for 25% of the shares...then we get $1.60+++

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