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    PS - 10% buyback needs just over $50m. Easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    PS - 10% buyback needs just over $50m. Easy
    sorry...cant get my head around a buy back when you borrow money to do it...it does look good for shareholders but doesnt add to company growth the way i see it

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    On a more micro note, looks like the big sellers at $1.15 have stopped, I expect a nice lift over the coming week(s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy415 View Post
    sorry...cant get my head around a buy back when you borrow money to do it...it does look good for shareholders but doesnt add to company growth the way i see it
    Google Share repurchase.
    It is something an investor must understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Google Share repurchase.
    It is something an investor must understand.
    Yes do that to get an idea and a better understanding. It's all about financial engineering and capital efficiencies which also creates the illusion of greater wealth for shareholders. Main purpose though is probably to get management a bigger bonus

    But never never read this

    http://hussman.net/wmc/wmc150817.htm
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    https://nzx.com/companies/HNZ/announcements/268573 Commentary on Share buy-back and positive effect on EPS is included in the results presentation.
    Last edited by Beagle; 20-08-2015 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    https://nzx.com/companies/HNZ/announcements/268573 Commentary on Share buy-back and positive effect on EPS is included in the results presentation.
    You forgot to mention the higher ROE as well

    Amazing how a bit of financial sorcery really does magical things

    Hope its a decent buyback .....$1.60 plus
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    I just love this chart from the presentation

    About $39m of the total expenses are people costs. They did go up $4m from the year before but I presume they inherited some Seniors people and probably gave everybody a pay rise as well.

    What the chart says is that our employees are coping very well with all that growth in loans - good on them for achieving a bit more. Couldn't have been working at full capacity in the past if they can do this.

    Keep at guys and gals - we want you to be busier still, so keep working your butts off.

    Means a fair chunk of the additional income falls through to our pockets as shareholders - isn't that how its meant to work

    That line will continue to fall - yippee

    And as a bonus we get to save what we paid Michael
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    Saves a cool million bucks from memory doesn't it mate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Saves a cool million bucks from memory doesn't it mate ?
    That was last year

    Waiting to see the Annual Report to see what Jeff got paid.

    Probabably over $2 million this year ......outrageous

    (That be 5% of the people cost)
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