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    Just remember - Valuations are the main driver of long-term returns, but the main driver of market returns over shorter horizons is the attitude of investors toward risk],

    Risk on at the moment ... Heartland about fairly valued

    Act accordingly
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Its scary out there that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoop View Post
    For the Newbies...spot what the big guys did wrong....

    Yep... buying in a downtrend ....There could some with their top ups being some 20% poorer for their experience...Well done you bunch of Gurus
    A Lower high (20th Aug) followed by a lower low (today)..the 6.5 month downtrend continues....
    Last edited by Hoop; 25-08-2015 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoop View Post
    A Lower high (20th Aug) followed by a lower low (today)..the 6.5 month downtrend continues....
    The current global turmoil is enough to tip quite a few normally solid stocks into a downtrend , too much TA at the expense of sound fundamentals here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1G0LD View Post
    The current global turmoil is enough to tip quite a few normally solid stocks into a downtrend , too much TA at the expense of sound fundamentals here.
    Using TA and waiting for mass buy signals would have kept you "out" of of the fundamentally rosy looking HNZ since February 2015..and saved you from a capital loss in your present day portfolio....

    .Hmmmm it seems you're in the know ...is it possible for you to show us what are the present fundamentals are as of today..as I can only refer back to what the fundamentals were ..an accumulation of historic data from last year up to the 30th June 2015..are those fundamentals still just as sound today??
    Last edited by Hoop; 25-08-2015 at 01:07 PM.

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    Buy in gloom....

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    Trouble in tough times all the wise guys come out did your chart tell you that SPK would boost their divvy (thats why the price is rising in a tough market)??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrage View Post
    Buy in gloom....
    I don't think HNZ is in gloom...Its rosy....Its just the share price is in a downtrend and investors out there lack patience to be able to wait for trend reversal...Buying into a downtrend is a bad practice and a no..no..in the 101 investor handbook...
    So...why do so many investors (many experienced + an odd fund manager or two ) ignore this basic discipline....

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    No HNZ is not in gloom, it is just the market tide. I am buying. The dividend is not far away. Looking at my records and thinking they were expensive when I paid 83c for some in 2013. This is an opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    Trouble in tough times all the wise guys come out did your chart tell you that SPK would boost their divvy (thats why the price is rising in a tough market)??
    a very poor post..

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