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    A very good result coming out in 4 to 5 weeks so no worries long term

    The expected rerating down because of the ‘riskier’ group structure continues
    “In a roaring bull market, knowledge is superfluous and experience is a handicap.”

    –Benjamin Graham”

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    I also have a paper loss - but $1.33 was so attractive that I pinged off some STU at a loss and popped the HGH order in @ $1.33.
    4:00 pm came and and the last order seemed to go through @ $1.34.
    Blow me at 5:00pm I get an email confirming the buy at $1.32
    Strange but it pays the brokerage.

    Yes looking forward to some reaffirmation of guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    A very good result coming out in 4 to 5 weeks so no worries long term

    The expected rerating down because of the ‘riskier’ group structure continues
    I thought the group structure thing was meant to put HGH on a higher PE? as they can grow faster now without as much pesky regulations etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Hard to believe where the price has dropped to, I'm sitting on some serious paper losses with this and TRA, were talking a serious Bear attack here not a little tickle up Beagle just experienced with KMD.
    The market either knows something I don't, or the market fears something I don't.
    HGH's half year result announcement is due early February,and should confirm my confidence "all is on track".
    TRA's divie is due at the end of this month.No sure when their next update will be..

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    Fear of the bear.
    No butts, hold no mutts, (unless they're the furry variety).

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    Funny HGH sp went down, as milk prices went up.????? ....lol.
    Must prove people fear "The Bear" more than they love "The Cow."...??????????????
    Last edited by percy; 03-01-2019 at 05:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Funny HGH sp went down, as milk prices went up.????? ....lol.
    Must prove people fear "The Bear" more than they love "The Cow."...??????????????
    Dairy prices went up like HGH share price went up a few weeks ago ....probably means dairy prices will fall over next month

    It’s the trend that matters
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Dairy prices went up like HGH share price went up a few weeks ago ....probably means dairy prices will fall over next month

    It’s the trend that matters
    Not for long term share holders,including directors and management with substantial holdings.
    It is HGH's fundamentals and outlook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Not for long term share holders,including directors and management with substantial holdings.
    It is HGH's fundamentals and outlook.
    And those fundamentals and outlook are really solid ...no worries here
    “In a roaring bull market, knowledge is superfluous and experience is a handicap.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader_jackson View Post
    $1.32, crazy stuff... and I thought $1.50 was cheap... Gross dividend yield nearing 10% now
    They need to come out with some sort of announcement reaffirming profit guidance, surely can't go below $1.30
    A good few cents below that dog on the asx flexigroup - now that when you know its bad
    Heartland getting the flexi disease since becaming an Aussie company has been painful.

    Market shows no respect for dodgy Aussie finance companies eh ....wonder if there’s a cure
    “In a roaring bull market, knowledge is superfluous and experience is a handicap.”

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    The cure is continuing solid earnings.Always has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    The cure is continuing solid earnings.Always has been.
    Anyone done an assessment of HGH's fast growing reverse mortgage business in Oz as the property market there is predicted to continue to decline (and maybe crash)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Anyone done an assessment of HGH's fast growing reverse mortgage business in Oz as the property market there is predicted to continue to decline (and maybe crash)?
    No worries with RELs mate

    Company spokesman person Percy would refer to you pages 35 to 39 being the section on Stress testing RELs in this presentation
    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...018/290747.pdf

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    Part of that presentation is very much like one’s CBL Insurance produced ....designed to make sophisticated complex things clear as mud
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    No worries with RELs mate

    Company spokesman person Percy would refer to you pages 35 to 39 being the section on Stress testing RELs in this presentation
    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...018/290747.pdf

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    Part of that presentation is very much like one’s CBL Insurance produced ....designed to make sophisticated complex things clear as mud
    No "sophisticated complex things" at HGH.
    Any comparison to CBL is misleading,and mischievous.
    Should any one bother to check,I did warn, as was pointed out by BlackPeter's post; #125 page 9 on CBL Insurance IPO thread 8/4/2017,of huge disasterous underwriting losses breaking insurance companies,because I had read the history of Lloyds.
    HGH is a simple business model,run by directors and managers who tell shareholders what they intend to do,then they do it.
    Last edited by percy; 06-01-2019 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    No worries with RELs mate

    Company spokesman person Percy would refer to you pages 35 to 39 being the section on Stress testing RELs in this presentation
    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...018/290747.pdf

    Last page below

    Part of that presentation is very much like one’s CBL Insurance produced ....designed to make sophisticated complex things clear as mud
    Too complicated for me. All one needs to know (really) from HGH is :

    Given the actuarial spread of RELs portfolio, what would be the impact on HGH's profitability and financial position of another 10%, 20% and 35% fall in Oz property prices.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...australia-down

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