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    Snoop dog, I was merely extracting the urine. I fudged my numbers to equate to Fridays closing price

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    so what's $10,000 worth now as per the rest of your post?
    Choices.
    1] Yahoo finance,capital $23,191.00
    2] Paper Tigers,capital $22,128.00
    3] Paper Tiger's capital plus dividends,$31,713.00.
    All rather compelling.!
    NB.Refer to post #8654.
    Last edited by percy; 11-02-2017 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Wrong as always on this thread.
    According to our friends at Yahoo finance.Share prices
    ..................1 year....................2 year...................5 year.
    ANZ...........29.85%.............minus 15.96%............36.84%
    HBL............39.29%...................12.23%.... ...........231.91%
    You keep your under performer,and I will keep my high achiever..
    So $10,000 miss placed in ANZ 5 years ago would be worth $13,684.00
    Same amount invested in HBL would be worth $23,191.00.
    The $23,191.00 should be $33,191.00 (giving your 231.91% return) ....yes?

    Snoopy even worse off eh
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    The $23,191.00 should be $33,191.00 (giving your 231.91% return) ....yes?

    Snoopy even worse off eh
    Whatever way you look at it HBL's share price has left ANZ's for dead!
    And it looks to me he will be further behind in future,as HBL's eps growth will out match ANZ's.This will give HBL the capacity to keep paying increasing dividends,while ANZ's will be flat.
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    Percy, see your mate Chris Lee this week mentioned the vexed question of how to fund property development seeing banking lines are being withdrawn.

    Time for Heartland to step up - market void not being serviced by the big boys, niche, not too labour intensive and all that ......and had some experience in this sector

    NZ needs subdivisions and apartment blocks - what an opportunity for Heartland. Betcha Jeff salivating thinking of what could be,

    Where's there a buck to be made Heartland should go
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Percy, see your mate Chris Lee this week mentioned the vexed question of how to fund property development seeing banking lines are being withdrawn.

    Time for Heartland to step up - market void not being serviced by the big boys, niche, not too labour intensive and all that ......and had some experience in this sector

    NZ needs subdivisions and apartment blocks - what an opportunity for Heartland. Betcha Jeff salivating thinking of what could be,

    Where's there a buck to be made Heartland should go
    Maybe no.
    Leave a sector for your Co-Op mates.
    Last edited by percy; 12-02-2017 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Whatever way you look at it HBL's share price has left ANZ's for dead!
    And it looks to me he will be further behind in future,as HBL's eps growth will out match ANZ's.This will give HBL the capacity to keep paying increasing dividends,while ANZ's will be flat.
    Just looked back at my spreadsheets and see that the majority of my holding HBL (HNZ at the time & some CBS before that) was bought in September 2011 at prices ranging from 48c-56c. My calculations show a 301% capital gain on my shares since then. Think I have received about 28c divies. So I think you are under estimating it mate :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Just looked back at my spreadsheets and see that the majority of my holding HBL (HNZ at the time & some CBS before that) was bought in September 2011 at prices ranging from 48c-56c. My calculations show a 301% capital gain on my shares since then. Think I have received about 28c divies. So I think you are under estimating it mate :-)
    Extremely happy to agree with you.
    Trust Winner69 and Snoopy read your post.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Last edited by percy; 12-02-2017 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Extremely happy to agree with you.
    Trust Winner69 and Snoopy read your post.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Cmon percy - its Sunday and I'm on your side and get grumpy with the inference i'm just as bad as Snoopy. I have HBL and Snoops doesn't to start with.

    I was just correcting your maths in an earlier post

    $10,000 in Heartland 5 years ago now worth $33,191 and not $23,191 as you said. Same calculation for ANZ is $13,684
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Cmon percy - its Sunday and I'm on your side and get grumpy with the inference i'm just as bad as Snoopy. I have HBL and Snoops doesn't to start with.

    I was just correcting your maths in an earlier post

    $10,000 in Heartland 5 years ago now worth $33,191 and not $23,191 as you said. Same calculation for ANZ is $13,684
    No inference meant.
    A basic mistake on my part.You were right to be grumpy.
    Included you, so as to be helpful, as I thought Iceman's spreadsheet figures were of interest.
    Apologises.

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