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    Quote Originally Posted by beetills View Post
    Any body with any ideas what this may mean for MCK/CDL.
    My opinion would be that they both disappear from the NZX unfortunately.
    All three possibilities could occur, being a full-takeover of the subsidaries, doing nothing, or selling down their stake in the NZ subsidiaries.

    The "Do nothing" option could result in a change in the dividend policy. I don't know if it would be an increase (get more cash out) or a decrease (retain cash to build the business).

    The sell-down option could put pressure on the share price in the short term, but it would increase the liquidity which is likely to be favourable in the medium to long term.

    You could get a ticker change for CDL because having City Developments Ltd (CDL) indirectly owning CDL could be a bit confusing.

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    If the NZ overseas investment office gets picky and doesn't provide its clearance in a timely manner could see MCK's stakes in MCK and CDL being floated. This would bypass the this regulatory approval within the takeover.

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    A serial underperformer. Is that going to change?
    https://stocknessmonster.com/charts/cdi.nzx/
    There is a lot not to like about this chart.
    This time it's different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    A serial underperformer. Is that going to change?
    https://stocknessmonster.com/charts/cdi.nzx/
    There is a lot not to like about this chart.
    This time it's different?
    Actually - this is the MCK thread, but hey, given that they are the majority shareholder of CDI - I shall take the bait:

    Average EPS since 2010 for CDI was 7 cents per share, and there is a significant rising trend visible (in 2010 it was 1 cent per share and in 2018 it was 12 cents per share).

    This makes a 10 years average EPS of less than 10. Ah yes - and earnings CAGR during this timeframe was 26. Not too bad, isn't it?

    NTA at book value is 76 cents, but this is only because they keep their properties at the lower of purchase price and revaluation price in their books. Based on their latest valuation - their property assets are worth $338m - this makes (divided by 278m shares $1.21 per share.

    And actually - for investors with an attention span longer than that of a fruit fly - there is even some uptrend in the share price visible :

    CDI long.jpg

    But yes, this (CDL) is a share for Buffett - type investors who are able to see deep value over yesterday's hype, who buy cheap and sell dear. Everybody else who just follows yesterday's momentum - just move on, nothing to see here ...

    And btw - similar (but not quite as great) metrics as above would apply to MCK whose thread this is ... they (MCK) are in my books with a average backward PE of 12 and and earnings CAGR of 21. Still - quite juicy, isn't it.

    Discl: hold both, but more CDI than MCK ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Take care.
    Last announcement.Annual report.
    Aucland Hotels.A lot of competition.Room tax and trouble getting staff, meant a poor outlook.
    CDL property.Again a muted outlook.

    Disc.I sold because of the poor outlook,and extremely low dividend yield.
    Like you I added to my HGH holding.
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    Well a very weak first half as expected.
    Talk that they will match last year's full year result, will mean they will have to go gangbusters in their second half.
    And I very much doubt that will happen.
    The last buyer at $2.71 has been taken out.Plenty of sellers should anyone want to buy any.
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    I exited today, after mulling it over for quite a few weeks. Only had a small holding. Got out at $2.73. Stayed in a few of their hotels recently on a road trip and nearly all need some sort of refreshing. Probably stayed in the wrong ones. Better places to park these $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiav View Post
    I exited today, after mulling it over for quite a few weeks. Only had a small holding. Got out at $2.73. Stayed in a few of their hotels recently on a road trip and nearly all need some sort of refreshing. Probably stayed in the wrong ones. Better places to park these $.
    Otepoti caught me out.
    Thought it must on NI East Coast,,lol..
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    Hope it means good news for CDL and MCK and by default me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    Revised condensed Version, mostly links, commentary removed: 18 August 2019
    Developed strategy based on these reports; ( somewhat dated )
    https://www.westpac.co.nz/assets/Bus...2018_Email.pdf
    http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/c...ell-gully.html

    https://www.bellgully.com/Shared%20D...s%20Update.pdf

    https://www.chapmantripp.com/Publica...hts%202018.pdf
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11985547

    The Scheme of Arrangement comments suit my strategic narrative;
    https://www.russellmcveagh.com/getme...arch-2018.pdf/

    Update 1: May 2018

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mill-cop-hotels-m-a-city-developments/mc-hotels-agrees-to-sweetened-bid-from-cdl-valuing-it-at-two-billion-pounds-idUKKBN1E22BU

    https://www.linz.govt.nz/overseas-in...7-12/201720083

    Takeovers Panel Exemption
    https://www.takeovers.govt.nz/exemptions/individual-exemptions/expired-exemptions/m-n/millennium-and-copthorne-hotels-new-zealand-limited-and-cdl-investments-new-zealand-limited-exemption-notice-2017/

    Looks like these two are potentially upstream transactions
    https://www.linz.govt.nz/overseas-in...8-04/201720066
    https://www.linz.govt.nz/overseas-in...8-04/201810035

    Update 2: June 2018
    Another security has been added to the takeover? TOP exemption includes!
    https://www.linz.govt.nz/overseas-in...8-05/201810007

    Update 3: 3 Jan 2019
    https://www.linz.govt.nz/overseas-in...-09/201810132a
    Link is a scheme of arrangement application to high court for approval.

    Update 4: 2 Mar 2019
    Companies reported now. Increased earnings and profit. Up-tick in ord dividend.

    Update 5: 10 August 2019
    Reported Strait Times Singapore 8 June 2019
    https://www.straitstimes.com/busines...pthorne-hotels

    Update 6: 18August 2019.
    Final Offer Doc. See: Part A-Conditions. Offer closes 1pm 27Sept (London)
    https://ir.cdl.com.sg/static-files/b...a-a144cbcb93ac

    Update 7, & FINAL! 14Sept 2019
    Offer for MLC.LN declared unconditional. Offer remains open till 27th to allow
    for final acceptances.
    https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/XGTKPL2KA0VSNQHW/12092019_MnC.pdf

    https://www.londonstockexchange.com/...22542GBGBXSTMM

    https://www.straitstimes.com/busines...-unconditional

    In my opinion a takeover offer for MCK and CDL will be launched as early as Monday 16 Sept
    2019 but possibly as late as the end of the month. DYOR.
    Impressive collection of links, but most of them do not work. Any chance you can fix them?
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