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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Are you on the same planet as the rest of us?
    The EPA isn't here to pander to anyone, they are here to make sound decisions to protect the environment where its apparent or even worse not clear what the damage to the environment would have been.
    The National government's clear support for TTR put egg on their face, they have supported oil exploration by bending over backwards for Stat oil & now look where that's heading. No where & fast. This government is so out of step with the way the rest of the world is heading in regards emissions & environmental protection its an embarrassment. Thank goodness we have a strong & fully independent EPA!
    Like I said....rules can and do change...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Key just had his wrist slapped for looking to change the rules for Sky city and very quickly (and rightly IMHO) backtracked. If he's not going to put his neck on the block for his casino mates I wouldn't hold your breath for Chris Castle
    I agree with easy money, it's not a question of Key helping Chris Castle at all, but of the government living up to its election policy of facilitating business development and investment, including controversial reforms to the RMA. Key got flak from many quarters on the casino issue, but most significantly he got no support from his two most powerful ministers (Joyce and English) or from the business community (Akld Chamber of Commerce). Joyce would have been backing the CRP application, as shown by his ministry's award of research funding to the company while it was before the DMC, and his opinion carries a lot of weight. Like MAC, I doubt if there is a strong case for High Court appeal. But tweaking the EPA's legislation could well be on the cards. That doesn't mean gutting it, but making it a bit easier for "uncertainties" to be resolved, even if it means modifying and prolonging the hearing process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT001 View Post
    I agree with easy money, it's not a question of Key helping Chris Castle at all, but of the government living up to its election policy of facilitating business development and investment, including controversial reforms to the RMA. Key got flak from many quarters on the casino issue, but most significantly he got no support from his two most powerful ministers (Joyce and English) or from the business community (Akld Chamber of Commerce). Joyce would have been backing the CRP application, as shown by his ministry's award of research funding to the company while it was before the DMC, and his opinion carries a lot of weight. Like MAC, I doubt if there is a strong case for High Court appeal. But tweaking the EPA's legislation could well be on the cards. That doesn't mean gutting it, but making it a bit easier for "uncertainties" to be resolved, even if it means modifying and prolonging the hearing process.
    Amen to that.
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    Smith and Bridges undertaking a full review of the legislation, to ensure it is 'fit for purpose', but, of course, it's not in response to any particular recent cases - TV One news tonight

    Sounds like a change to the rules will be forthcoming to me.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerof View Post
    Smith and Bridges undertaking a full review of the legislation, to ensure it is 'fit for purpose', but, of course, it's not in response to any particular recent cases - TV One news tonight

    Sounds like a change to the rules will be forthcoming to me.........
    Thanks Xerof, found a link;

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/urge...-going-6237068

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    Personally I think Key will be risking his political future by changing the role & independence of the EPA.
    Recently they have had to capitulate on their restructure of DOC only done 18 months ago, back track on their position on the convention centre/casino & then has the Mike Sabin thing hanging over him like a bad smell. I live in Northland & it will certainly be interesting how the byelection goes.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    I should add I am not anti mining, quite the opposite in fact. I worked in commodity trading & mine finance for 15 years.
    However the mining needs to b appropriate & this & the TTR application are miles below where the bar needs to be set.
    These sort of projects would not be approved in a very pro mining jurisdiction such as Australia. Mind you, you never know under that idiot Abbott.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    Question Time should be illuminating today:

    DAVID SEYMOUR to the Minister for the Environment: Is he confident that the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Act 2012 is fit for purpose, in light of the Environmental Protection Authority rejecting both the recent ironsands and phosphate seabed mining applications?

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    https://www.nzx.com/companies/CRP/announcements/260802

    There's a lot of accusations and strong words in the above announcement. I'm not sure I'd agree CRP are "in a strong position", or being back to company value 5 years ago is a good thing, but generally there are a a great deal of valid points made against the general process involved. Discussions about law changes and review of the EPA, make up of the DMC, all very interesting with the recent question put to the minister and news articles. I don't know if this will translate into anything more substantial.

    Though my favourite quote would have to be near the end (in response to claims removing the phosphate would reduce fertility of the seabed):

    "...no fish species have ever been observed eating rock phosphate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipodean View Post
    https://www.nzx.com/companies/CRP/announcements/260802

    There's a lot of accusations and strong words in the above announcement. I'm not sure I'd agree CRP are "in a strong position", or being back to company value 5 years ago is a good thing, but generally there are a a great deal of valid points made against the general process involved. Discussions about law changes and review of the EPA, make up of the DMC, all very interesting with the recent question put to the minister and news articles. I don't know if this will translate into anything more substantial.

    Though my favourite quote would have to be near the end (in response to claims removing the phosphate would reduce fertility of the seabed):

    "...no fish species have ever been observed eating rock phosphate
    nodules."
    Looks like CC is letting of some steam...good for him...More importantly will be what he has to say at tomorrow's meeting...anyone going?
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