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    I expect NZ First to drift down below 5% then it will all be a different ball game :-)

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    Looks like National is not only the Chinese party but the immigration party as well.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Looks like National is not only the Chinese party but the immigration party as well.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
    Not really that suprising as these recent immigrants are largely hard working people that just want to get on with it and very likely that most of them don't want Winnie near the Government controls. Having said that, I think National should be very careful not to promise to change the new immigration law that so upsets the Indian community. I don't think arranged marriages where the woman often has no say in the decision, should be allowed in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Looks like National is not only the Chinese party but the immigration party as well.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
    And why not?

    https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-an...-benefits.html

    Beneficiaries under Labour keep growing so who's doing the hard work in the country to feed the tens of thousands of state beneficiaries who choose NOT to work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Not really that suprising as these recent immigrants are largely hard working people that just want to get on with it and very likely that most of them don't want Winnie near the Government controls. Having said that, I think National should be very careful not to promise to change the new immigration law that so upsets the Indian community. I don't think arranged marriages where the woman often has no say in the decision, should be allowed in NZ
    That's very sexist. What about the poor **** bridegroom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major von Tempsky View Post
    I expect NZ First to drift down below 5% then it will all be a different ball game :-)
    Unless Mr Jones takes Northland. Kingmakers again unless Labour and Greens can form a government. Mr Peters came close in Northland in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Unless Mr Jones takes Northland. Kingmakers again unless Labour and Greens can form a government. Mr Peters came close in Northland in 2017.
    And how many billion do they have to spend there to take it legitimately right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    That's very sexist. What about the poor **** bridegroom?
    Purely based on a personal observation of this happening close to me last year where the groom had a say but the bride had no say and no choice. I thought it was awful and totally against New Zealand values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Unless Mr Jones takes Northland. Kingmakers again unless Labour and Greens can form a government. Mr Peters came close in Northland in 2017.
    Of course it is possible that Jacinda panics closer to the election and tries to gift Northland to Jones. Not sure how that would go down with the Greens though who surely will be demanding a lot more say should she get another term as PM than just being taken for granted like lapdogs like they have been this term. Would also say loud and clear to conservative voters that a vote for Winnie is a vote for the Greens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timesurfer View Post
    And how many billion do they have to spend there to take it legitimately right?
    That won't worry them. It's only the consolidated fund (read taxpayers) that will suffer.

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    https://www.interest.co.nz/news/1037...party-revealed

    $200,000 over two years, the Chinese govt funding National.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
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    $200,000 over two years, the Chinese govt funding National.
    Wonder who they funding now?
    “Just consider that maybe the probability of you being wrong is higher than you think.”

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    Same horse,same race:-)

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    Good to see change of Leader for National. In spite of Simon Bridges' undoubted abilities and hard work, he was never going to make P.M. Life is cruel and he just did not have the X factor. Muller is a great orator, and hopefully will make an impression in the short time up to the election. It will be a rocky-ride for both parties up till September elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    https://www.interest.co.nz/news/1037...party-revealed

    $200,000 over two years, the Chinese govt funding National.
    Nothing compared to who have been funding Winston & NZF, and getting favours a plenty from them.

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