If National wins ...

[winner69]

..............

We can do way better, the govt has got worse at each term ; complacency and holding on to power have corrupted them imo .Rise up and vote for change.

A revolution is needed .....but a Labour led one?

Jacinda has a lot if similarities with Pierre Trudeau. Canadians seem rather disappointed with him. There seems to be an unbridgeable gap between rhetoric and actual delivery.

I can easily see this being the Labour way - Jacinda might be young(ish) and keen but a lot of fuddy duddies will be on her 'let's do this' team

[winner69]

No they don't. That is their biggest trouble. Sorry to storm in and answer for eZ, but there'll be too much excitement in his burrow today with the latest poll results. May even be well oiled up on giggle juice. Jacinda and her comrades will be creaming themseves tonight.

Yep, they'll be happy as tonight

Polling has become 'sophisticated' over the years but pollsters still grapple with a basic problem - the probability derived from their model has to be compounded with the probability that the model is itself true.

They come up with confidence intervals but not with probabilities

In saying that for NZ at least national %ages translate into numbers of MPs and aren't generally complicated by the need to drill down to individual seats.




And then are the respondents telling what they believe?

[Baa_Baa]

Some pretty rich artists around these days

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...e-labour-party

The money doesn't go to the artist but the artist is named as the donor! Money laundering plain and simple, Labour should be ashamed and the 'loophole' closed.

[artemis]

The money doesn't go to the artist but the artist is named as the donor! Money laundering plain and simple, Labour should be ashamed and the 'loophole' closed.

IRD might be taking an interest as there will be a disjoint between income and 'donations' made.

ETA Are charitable tax deductions available for donations to political parties? If so the artists will be in happy happy land on those figures.

[blackcap]

The money doesn't go to the artist but the artist is named as the donor! Money laundering plain and simple, Labour should be ashamed and the 'loophole' closed.

Looks like dirty politics to me here. Que Hagar with another book perhaps?

[winner69]

Huge crowd at the Auckland TownHall

They say a few bus loads of the converted from Tauranga have turned up - you one of them Joshua?

[fungus pudding]

Huge crowd at the Auckland TownHall

They say a few bus loads of the converted from Tauranga have turned up - you one of them Joshua?

He's probably at home head down buried in David Seymour's book. 'Own your future'. He'll really enjoy it it's good. Even eZ will like it, but he's probably out changing signs.

[winner69]

He's probably at home head down buried in David Seymour's book. 'Own your future'. He'll really enjoy it it's good. Even eZ will like it, but he's probably out changing signs.

Fungus - Apparently the launch is like the second coming.

Thousands in the hall and overflow areas ......and Andrew tweeting tens of thousands watching the various live streams on the Internet

Wow - not a revolution - it's a crusade

[fungus pudding]

Fungus - Apparently the launch is like the second coming.

Thousands in the hall and overflow areas ......and Andrew tweeting tens of thousands watching the various live streams on the Internet

Wow - not a revolution - it's a crusade

Probably trying to outdo Trump. Someone better tell him.

[Joshuatree]

Its national who have been the leaders in lowering the bar, misinforming; promising; exaggerating along with many of the pro national media , radio stations and tv stations. For example saying water will be charged to farmers , horticulturists etc etc at 10c a litre and its actually 1 to 2 c per thousand litres so thats a 10,000 times exaggeration (@ 1c a litre). And omitting the natural rainfall from their dire calculations; its like they've decided to trumpify the election and that thats ok, it sure is not.

And they've been doing pathetic little incremental fiddlings or nothing and now we have a mega problem with housing for one with the health system close by etc etc. Its become the norm for national to behave like this. Thats one reason why we need a new broom with ethics and morals as the broom handle...