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    If WP retires at the next election, will there still be a party without him, they might think so, but will many who voted NZF dessert it once he has gone.
    Secondly will Epsom voters get sick of ACT and go back to National, though this doesn't make a lot of difference with MMP as they are getting the party vote in any case, it is just one more seat for them and but can help the numbers if a different party that will on general side with them.

    Still can't see him go to a three way, National or cross benches I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by craic View Post
    Sorry folks, but WP is not going with National.
    I think that's a likely event, Craic. The Nats can start the gnashing of teeth now, get it over with. Winston's policies, and even his campaign slogan, imply he was seeking the "Not National" vote. He also has remarkably similar policies to Labour's, and it's National he aimed his ire at, during the campaign. Labour even has blood ties on their side.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/electi...ces-clear.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    I think that's a likely event, Craic. The Nats can start the gnashing of teeth now, get it over with. Winston's policies, and even his campaign slogan, imply he was seeking the "Not National" vote. He also has remarkably similar policies to Labour's, and it's National he aimed his ire at, during the campaign. Labour even has blood ties on their side.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/electi...ces-clear.html
    Don't do this to yourself EL Z. The media, after 24 hours of saying it's a Nats certainty, are filling up column inches with every conceivable angle they can think of. Of course Peters would rail against the Nats pre-election. He was in opposition!

    This is Winston's legacy moment. I reckon he'll demand an Epsom type deal for Shane Jones in Northland to ensure NZ First survives his retirement. Winston is by nature a moral conservative, the only like mind in Labour or the Greens would be Damien O'connor. You won't find him snuggling up to Labour and the Greens any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Don't do this to yourself EL Z. The media, after 24 hours of saying it's a Nats certainty, are filling up column inches with every conceivable angle they can think of. Of course Peters would rail against the Nats pre-election. He was in opposition!

    This is Winston's legacy moment. I reckon he'll demand an Epsom type deal for Shane Jones in Northland to ensure NZ First survives his retirement. Winston is by nature a moral conservative, the only like mind in Labour or the Greens would be Damien O'connor. You won't find him snuggling up to Labour and the Greens any time soon.
    You can't blame me for some optimism. Anyway it's all up to Winston, and many of his supporters are saying don't go to National and waste their vote. They voted for change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Don't do this to yourself EL Z. The media, after 24 hours of saying it's a Nats certainty, are filling up column inches with every conceivable angle they can think of. Of course Peters would rail against the Nats pre-election. He was in opposition!

    This is Winston's legacy moment. I reckon he'll demand an Epsom type deal for Shane Jones in Northland to ensure NZ First survives his retirement. Winston is by nature a moral conservative, the only like mind in Labour or the Greens would be Damien O'connor. You won't find him snuggling up to Labour and the Greens any time soon.
    You're right about O'Connor. Everytime he says something he sounds like he's got stuck in the rwong party. That aside, this negotiation nonsense is a charade. Winston knows full well who he will select to govern already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    You can't blame me for some optimism. Anyway it's all up to Winston, and many of his supporters are saying don't go to National and waste their vote. They voted for change.
    I agree with you EZ that its all up to Winston and his personal baubles. After all, that's what he is all about. He ran his election campaign on being the saviour of the regions. National won 24 of the 26 regional electorates. That makes it clear where NZF should go. But I now hope he goes with the losers on the left, Labour and the Greens. It will last maximum 10-12 months after which we will have another election when both Greens and NZF would be wiped out. That would be ideal.

    I have to add though EZ that Winston ran his campaign on running for the regions. National won 24 of the 46 regional electorates. Winnie the Poo is finished if he goes to the Left
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