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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    You have a point - but just to a point.

    Significant parts of the economy are currently on hold. Sure - the supermarkets are still selling milk, but nobody in their right mind would start a new housing project without knowing whether they perhaps miss out some subsidies the new government might come up with. Companies are holding back investments for the same reasons and might be as well very careful to make new employment commitments until they know whether they are later on able to control their employment cost (remembers Winnie's crazy minimum wage or as well Labours ideas of empowering the unions).

    Turn it like you will - uncertainty creates lost opportunity cost. We all will pay for them.
    Well said. Any large project that could potentially be affected by how this coin toss turns out is quite possibly currently on hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Well said. Any large project that could potentially be affected by how this coin toss turns out is quite possibly currently on hold.
    This point is being overcooked
    Any significant law change is at least 18 months away. No sensible business will hold on that long.

    The converse side of the argument is conditions may be more favorable now so best to just get on with it. Delaying may have a lost opportunity cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    http://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/beagle/ Yes, and No but anyway look how cute they are and all sins and shortcomings are quickly forgotten !!!!
    Aww - how sweet. Sounding just like a Labour supporter backing jacinda

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    Ok that market is all over the shop. I just got matched on Labour at 2.22 for not a little amount. So from Labour a $10 shot 3 hours ago to now matched at $2.22, I do not think anyone knows anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Ok that market is all over the shop. I just got matched on Labour at 2.22 for not a little amount. So from Labour a $10 shot 3 hours ago to now matched at $2.22, I do not think anyone knows anything.
    Winston does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Aww - how sweet. Sounding just like a Labour supporter backing jacinda
    LOL Beagle's are cute and harmless to anyone unless sorely provoked, on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    LOL Beagle's are cute and harmless to anyone unless sorely provoked, on the other hand...
    Can't beat springer spaniels, if you have enough energy to keep up with them.

    No decision from NZ First tonight. http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...again-tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post

    No decision from NZ First tonight. http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...again-tomorrow
    Might be the first time the Board Members have been to a big city and stayed in a hotel. No point rushing things.

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    NZ First leader Winston Peters said Key was trying to keep the public in ignorance over the TPP.
    "But New Zealanders deserve to know what rights are being negotiated away by this government," he said.
    "The prime minister is misleading when he says the public will have the chance to have their say on the content of the TPP during the select committee process.
    "They will have their say over the associated legislation that New Zealand will have to implement to agree to the terms of the TPP.
    "But they will not get a say on the text of the treaty as that will have already been ratified by Cabinet."


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...y-push-blocked

    The irony is that when the tables are turned...
    Don't New Zealanders deserve to know what is being negotiated away by the main parties
    Isn't this misleading that the public will be able to have their say about the policies in the next term of government
    That they won't get their say over the legislation and policies as they will already been ratified by the coalition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rep View Post
    NZ First leader Winston Peters said Key was trying to keep the public in ignorance over the TPP.
    "But New Zealanders deserve to know what rights are being negotiated away by this government," he said.
    "The prime minister is misleading when he says the public will have the chance to have their say on the content of the TPP during the select committee process.
    "They will have their say over the associated legislation that New Zealand will have to implement to agree to the terms of the TPP.
    "But they will not get a say on the text of the treaty as that will have already been ratified by Cabinet."


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...y-push-blocked

    The irony is that when the tables are turned...
    Don't New Zealanders deserve to know what is being negotiated away by the main parties
    Isn't this misleading that the public will be able to have their say about the policies in the next term of government
    That they won't get their say over the legislation and policies as they will already been ratified by the coalition?
    Precisely, it's a farce, the anathema of democracy, but the public seem to have no idea they're being shafted either which way they vote. MMP is really screwed up, it's a system that creates winners from losers and deny's the democratic process and popular opinion which in itself beggars belief.

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