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    MVT in my education the higher university qualified a teacher was the worse he was at teaching. Especially as not long after I left high school the top bookkeeping teacher in NZ had not even had 5years secondry education let alone gone to university. The one teacher I struck with an MA was the most useless clot I have ever met
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    Quote Originally Posted by POSSUM THE CAT View Post
    MVT in my education the higher university qualified a teacher was the worse he was at teaching. Especially as not long after I left high school the top bookkeeping teacher in NZ had not even had 5years secondry education let alone gone to university. The one teacher I struck with an MA was the most useless clot I have ever met
    MA? Social sciences, that's why. Although I have to be careful in case someone near to me reads this..
    Most, if not all, of my good teachers had degrees.

    The old saying "Those who can, do, those who can't, teach" can be trotted out in bars and in informal conversation, but it's not true. It's like any profession or trade, some qualify and are useful, some qualify and are not as useful. Bookkeeping is a really useful skill for running a business. You don't need a degree to do it. School Cert level (NCEA L1)would be fine.
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    El Zorro that MA teacher was teaching English & Social Studies the highest qualified teacher in the school & he was not allowed anywhere near the professional classes.
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    Had two or three change over from teaching at primary level to the probation service in my time. One came to me with the query, one day. "IMformation and INformation - one is stuff coming in and the other is stuff going out - I can never remember which is which?" Another rushed in to ask "what's two per cent of $35.50? - I'm not very good at maths'. One Interrmediate teacher called us in to tell us that tests revealed that our son was in the bottom 5% of NZ children in his ability to learn (intelligence). He has honours degrees from London University and has held senior positions in Goldman Sachs and with his current employer, The Bank of America. The system seems to rely on children surviving in spite poor parenting and some very poor education.

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    I have a story kind of like that: a senior, well paid technical and IT consultant (with a degree) at a tertiary institution had reason to drill some holes in some thin steel, whilst at work. He kept dropping a drill bit into the technicians for sharpening, but no matter what they did, the drill wasn't working. On closer inspection, the cordless drill was going in reverse. He was still useful in the right sort of areas. People like that need to be employed in big firms. Then they can shine, perhaps.

    Here's a Labour press release from today, but I hope people read it despite that. I heard on the Radio this morning that a very long-established advocacy service will have to close because govt funding has been stopped, after 22 years. This is the silent work that National are doing, which will increase the gap between rich and poor. It's happening quietly under our noses.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA130...vice-falls.htm
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    Read the story a bit more carefully on the regular news. A service that has been receiving $50,000 per annum claims it will have to close if it doesn't receive $100,000 per annum. This particular game has been going on for years. Voluntary groups set up to cure alcoholics, assist brain damaged, or pensioners or someone else. They get some funding and, in the fullness of time, decide that they are indipensable. ALAC has, or had in my time, regional advisory committees to assist with the grading of the many claimants on its funds. Locally we have a Citizens Advice Bureau, Grey Power, RSA, and umpteen voluntary groups who assist beneficiaries and others with claims. But they are seldom needed, the public servants who are paid to do this work here are very efficient and helpful. Why shouldn't they be - their careers depend on it and it is not their money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craic View Post
    Read the story a bit more carefully on the regular news. A service that has been receiving $50,000 per annum claims it will have to close if it doesn't receive $100,000 per annum. This particular game has been going on for years. Voluntary groups set up to cure alcoholics, assist brain damaged, or pensioners or someone else. They get some funding and, in the fullness of time, decide that they are indipensable. ALAC has, or had in my time, regional advisory committees to assist with the grading of the many claimants on its funds. Locally we have a Citizens Advice Bureau, Grey Power, RSA, and umpteen voluntary groups who assist beneficiaries and others with claims. But they are seldom needed, the public servants who are paid to do this work here are very efficient and helpful. Why shouldn't they be - their careers depend on it and it is not their money?
    Craic, this is not the story that I heard on the radio from the coal-face. Some staff at WINZ are insensitive to the signs of depression, and are turning away people who have been in hospital for treatment the week before. They have not been given training for this, and the advocacy outfits have the experience to add value here. What is the price of one life saved? Obviously less than $100,000 p.a.

    On another front, HEET, a government-sponsored outfit that competed with the private sector to install insulation in homes, has been dropped off the funding list and this made over 30 people redundant in Huntly, over the last year. Local community trusts helped fund it, along with Genesis. 5000 homes were fitted out a year. You can argue that they should not have been in this space, but it's an example of another Labour/Green initiative that has been unwound. National enjoys doing this. A big local firm has quickly taken over the space to sell imported agricultural machinery to farmers, poised for those years when they have a tax issue. Progress of a kind.

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    I am in the midst of the insulation installation in my home. A friend complained that the contractor sacked her son-in-law late last year even though he was a good worker and she was upset. I spoke to the contractor when he came here to do our place. He runs six gangs of men from march through to october and one gang rest of year - that just the business. Nothing whatsoever to say a party "enjoys" doing this. Winz staff do not diagnose depression they respond to the doctors letter that should arrive with the patient. When I was a PO, you would have no trouble finding people who considered me to be the biggest bas**rd on two legs. an equal number would say the opposite. The funding for insulation was one third in all cases and two thirds in some needy cases. It has effectively been cut back to one third in all cases. This is the world we live in. I never heard of insulation till I came to NZ - no one I knew died of cold in Ireland.

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    Thats because the communication was limited to two potatoes with a string between them
    Quote Originally Posted by craic View Post
    I am in the midst of the insulation installation in my home. A friend complained that the contractor sacked her son-in-law late last year even though he was a good worker and she was upset. I spoke to the contractor when he came here to do our place. He runs six gangs of men from march through to october and one gang rest of year - that just the business. Nothing whatsoever to say a party "enjoys" doing this. Winz staff do not diagnose depression they respond to the doctors letter that should arrive with the patient. When I was a PO, you would have no trouble finding people who considered me to be the biggest bas**rd on two legs. an equal number would say the opposite. The funding for insulation was one third in all cases and two thirds in some needy cases. It has effectively been cut back to one third in all cases. This is the world we live in. I never heard of insulation till I came to NZ - no one I knew died of cold in Ireland.

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    Craic, maybe in Ireland the houses are built of stone and more solid materials a bit more often. A bit more background on HEET: it was also a workforce training centre and a curtain recycling place. This was the appeal for the community funders.

    The advocacy centre has the same problem that many similar groups have: their status as charities has been revoked by National. In one go their funding options have been clobbered, because many funders look for charity status as a filter for proposals. Other groups are being forced to reapply for their status as providers by June, but the paperwork has not been provided by govt yet. They will, however, be able to use consultants to help fill out the paperwork. This is a thinly veiled attempt to drop back the applicants.

    Paula Bennett has put out a reply today. Looks like the CRF fund has been the one that dried up. The point is that the amount of funding available each year is now very low.

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...ceive-funding/

    Here's an article that is a load of bollocks.

    http://goldstocksforex.com/2013/03/0...iness-insider/

    The profits from this mechanisation are not spread evenly around the populace, never would be. The mechanisation will only continue for as long as we have the resources available to feed it. Any one limitation will bring it to its knees. Like an oil supply. If socialism is a dampener to raging capitalism, then that is probably a good thing, I reckon.
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