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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Quite right, I should have said numbers, not amounts. Every vote is precious of course - parties would like to have their canvassers speak to every voter in the electorate, personally. How to do that, with the resources and the time constraints, is the issue.

    I'm curious as to how you came up with that last sentence, though, FP. Surely if Labour would be better off going it alone, the recent polling would have moved in the opposite direction? It didn't move in the way you wanted it to move, so maybe your logic is flawed.

    Could it be that the "Not National, thanks" voters have been waiting for this MoU event, and thoroughly endorse it? That's more likely. If it begins to look more certain that a Labour-Green coalition will take out the 2017 election, I'd expect soft National voters to move left also, as there are plenty of voters who just like to be on the winning side. They're not that worried either way.
    The result of the next election will probably be in the hands of one Mr. Winston Peters. Fancy him as P.M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    The result of the next election will probably be in the hands of one Mr. Winston Peters. Fancy him as P.M?
    If nationalists overseas are in power including The Donald in the US and Bo Jo in the UK, it will strengthen Winnie's hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    The result of the next election will probably be in the hands of one Mr. Winston Peters. Fancy him as P.M?
    If by some mischance a Labour/Greens alliance wins power they'll probably need someone like WP to show them the ropes and take them by the hand. Leadership goes along with that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    If by some mischance a Labour/Greens alliance wins power they'll probably need someone like WP to show them the ropes and take them by the hand. Leadership goes along with that.

    Wait a minute macduffy, James Shaw doesn't look like he came down in the last shower, and many of the Labour MPs and caucus members were around during Labour's last triumphant nine year term in office. 9 years, during which Crown debts were repaid, not increased to new highs, when unemployment levels reached a new low for the times, and when smokefree legislation and many other useful policies were brought through, the Cullen Fund, etc etc.

    Don't be so patronising. It's John key and Bill English who need holding by the hand. If they weren't paying heavily for Crosby-Textor's neoliberal advice, they'd have been booted out long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Wait a minute macduffy, James Shaw doesn't look like he came down in the last shower, and many of the Labour MPs and caucus members were around during Labour's last triumphant nine year term in office. 9 years, during which Crown debts were repaid, not increased to new highs, when unemployment levels reached a new low for the times, and when smokefree legislation and many other useful policies were brought through, the Cullen Fund, etc etc.

    Don't be so patronising. It's John key and Bill English who need holding by the hand. If they weren't paying heavily for Crosby-Textor's neoliberal advice, they'd have been booted out long ago.
    Name one person in either Labour or Greens who could possibly be a Prime Minister. Don't even bother to mention James Shaw - he just ain't got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Name one person in either Labour or Greens who could possibly be a Prime Minister. Don't even bother to mention James Shaw - he just ain't got it.
    Little, Goff, Shearer, Robertson, Cunliffe, King, etc, would all be better PMs for NZ than John Key and stand-in Bill English have been. That's a lot of depth to choose from. Who have National got in the wings? The conehead marketer Steven Joyce, he's all talk too. Brownlee? Bennett(s)? No independent thought anywhere. Give me a break.

    John Campbell had an interview on Radio NZ with a girl from a homeless family. It's a sad state of affairs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9UnyOoMIPU
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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Little, Goff, Shearer, Robertson, Cunliffe, King, etc, would all be better PMs for NZ than John Key and stand-in Bill English have been. That's a lot of depth to choose from.
    Little? C'mon eZ, we've telling you eversince that Andrew is not a PM material. Have you Guys seen him smile? I meant a smile that comes from the heart that makes the eyes shine for that smiling moment? Little is carrying too much weight on his heart and thoughts. Disregard Goff and Cunliffe too please.

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    Really? And how do you qualify that? Perhaps you see Shaw as a realistic threat to National, so better to dismiss him.

    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Name one person in either Labour or Greens who could possibly be a Prime Minister. Don't even bother to mention James Shaw - he just ain't got it.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    SkyCity imaginary construction jobs, another scam in the making. Interesting comments.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...go-to-thailand

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    Hey EZ - do you keep your eyes on the speedo instead of the road as the Minister of Police would claim.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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