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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Not quite so reticent with political views though.
    Most gardeners would regard Morgans views on cats as correct and he may not be as unpopular as is being suggested.

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    Certainly no argument with his cat attitude, but everything else he's come out with would be impossible to sell to the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Good heavens! Am I? You must be extremely gifted to know what I'm estimating. I haven't told a soul.
    I could remind you of this graph, FP, clearly showing that once a party has an established and unsullied brand, then their voting results can be strongly aligned with spend occurring close to the election date. That sort of cash isn't beyond Gareth Morgan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    I could remind you of this graph, FP, clearly showing that once a party has an established and unsullied brand, then their voting results can be strongly aligned with spend occurring close to the election date. That sort of cash isn't beyond Gareth Morgan.
    Let's see what he has to sell, and who's going to sell it. Morgan himself is not the man. Terrible speaker which you will know if you've ever been to any of his his public meetings. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Certainly no argument with his cat attitude, but everything else he's come out with would be impossible to sell to the masses.
    I rather think that it depends what your "masses" might be persuaded to think he might be selling.

    And I'm inclined to think that evidence-based policy focused toward socially desireable and culturally accepted outcomes would go down very well indeed. Across virtually the entire political spectrum.

    Especially if presented as apolitical politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTM 3442 View Post
    I rather think that it depends what your "masses" might be persuaded to think he might be selling.

    And I'm inclined to think that evidence-based policy focused toward socially desireable and culturally accepted outcomes would go down very well indeed. Across virtually the entire political spectrum.

    Especially if presented as apolitical politics.
    Read his books and ask yourself whether his ideas would be acceptable to voters. That is not to say they are without merit. But good ideas need to be popular or they die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTM 3442 View Post
    I rather think that it depends what your "masses" might be persuaded to think he might be selling.

    And I'm inclined to think that evidence-based policy focused toward socially desireable and culturally accepted outcomes would go down very well indeed. Across virtually the entire political spectrum.

    Especially if presented as apolitical politics.
    That's how I sort of see it as well.

    Many things incumbent parties haven't really addressed - the 'masses' might think the new boy on the block might actually do something to make change happen
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    That's how I sort of see it as well.

    Many things incumbent parties haven't really addressed - the 'masses' might think the new boy on the block might actually do something to make change happen
    You might be right if there was a charismatic promoter involved. Garreth Morgan just ain't charismatic.

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    But the masses are very happy with the current state of affairs - except the left, of course. So the result will be a split in the left vote a and a passage to oblivion for the present Labour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craic View Post
    But the masses are very happy with the current state of affairs - except the left, of course. So the result will be a split in the left vote a and a passage to oblivion for the present Labour?
    Possibly. Morgan is a socialist through and through, a modem day Robin Hood, so if he manages to get a following at all - which I doubt - it will come from Labour/Greens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    You might be right if there was a charismatic promoter involved. Garreth Morgan just ain't charismatic.
    That was no doubt the conclusion John Key came to with Bill English, promised to support him then voted for Don Brash.

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