If National wins ...

[Joshuatree]

Thats why the Greens may need tactical voting to get over the line. If ones electorate is a true blue national or a strong labour one for example, consider party vote Green or NZ first if you are so inclined.

[blackcap]

I cant believe 4.99% of the voters would support a party that sees nothing wrong with benefit fraud and electoral vote manipulation. And to think they may share government with Labour is scary.

Good mate of mine (professional earns 100k+) and his wife will both be voting Green. They care deeply about climate change and all other plastic and effluent type issues. Their kids go to Rudolf Steiner type schools. Rich chardonnay socialists inhabit these places, most probably vote green. I do not go to that school or any things that that school does like fairs etc... it really is a scary place. Why is he a good mate? Well he does come around for the rugby and we have known each other since Uni and get on fine outside of politics. We talk boy talk but only when his Mrs is not around. Point is there are plenty of people out there that can see past the fraud because in their minds the other issues are more important. Not that I agree, just saying how many of our populace think.

[Joshuatree]

I cant believe 4.99% of the voters would support a party that sees nothing wrong with benefit fraud and electoral vote manipulation. And to think they may share government with Labour is scary.

The problems are still there waiting to be fixed mm. Greens have reset and moved on.

[fungus pudding]

The problems are still there waiting to be fixed mm. Greens have reset and moved on.

The Greens eventual saviour will be the young Aucklander, Chloe Something? She's an impressive debater and will appeal to the young brainwashed tree-huggers. They'll need a new half-leader and she'd be the pick of them, but the American woman will probably get that position, because the last thing they need at present is an internal war.

[Joshuatree]

"brainwashed tree huggers" Never heard that term for bark before , its pretty novel. Chloe something sounds promising, any links?

[winner69]

"brainwashed tree huggers" Never heard that term for bark before , its pretty novel. Chloe something sounds promising, any links?

Chloe Swarbrick

Has same values as you ....surprised and disappointed you haven't come across her

But Greens have lost their way - or not expressing it well

Chloe could be the next Jacinda

[westerly]

Chloe Swarbrick

Has same values as you ....surprised and disappointed you haven't come across her

But Greens have lost their way - or not expressing it well

Chloe could be the next Jacinda

The older more conservative men do not realise how much women have moved into areas once predominently occupied by men, and it continues.
It is no longer possible to have a men only organisation, but women have many groups where men would fear to tred.
The more Jacinda, Paula, or other prominent womn are criticised, the more likely women will vote for them as for a male politician.

westerly

[winner69]

The older more conservative men do not realise how much women have moved into areas once predominently occupied by men, and it continues.
It is no longer possible to have a men only organisation, but women have many groups where men would fear to tred.
The more Jacinda, Paula, or other prominent womn are criticised, the more likely women will vote for them as for a male politician.

westerly

So true ...........but there re many open minded older conservative men who work with these women

Diversity is great

[fungus pudding]

The older more conservative men do not realise how much women have moved into areas once predominently occupied by men, and it continues.

westerly

I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Older men (conservative or otherwise) have seen the change, lived through it, and I'd say they are extremely aware of it.

[BlackPeter]

The older more conservative men do not realise how much women have moved into areas once predominently occupied by men, and it continues.
It is no longer possible to have a men only organisation, but women have many groups where men would fear to tred.
The more Jacinda, Paula, or other prominent womn are criticised, the more likely women will vote for them as for a male politician.

westerly

Not sure - this theory certainly didn't hold water for Hillary Clinton. I don't think that there is any evidence that women are typically giving other women any preference when voting (I have even seen numbers which would suggest the opposite). And there is certainly no evidence that women are supporting other women if these are under attack (as Hillary was).

As well - if you look at countries where women are calling (or used to call) the shots - I can't remember any stats showing that Jenny Shipley - or Helen Clark - or Angela Merkel - or Theresa May - or Golda Meir - or Margret Thatcher - had any more support from female voters than from male voters. Have you?