Yeah, but at least they are nowhere near as dopey as Labour. .
Dopey - that's being kind. Making up a water tax on the fly, flip flopping on Tax and $20m for fast rail from Tauranga to Auckland reeks of incompetence.
Labour seem to have been rather quiet about the carry ons of Jian Yang ....hmmm
No surprise there - you wouldn't want anyone looking any deeper into Comrade Jacinda and her Youth Socialist crew and what they get up to. Marxist activism probably trumps whatever Jian Yang was up to
There was always going to be a big delay on tax changes, now it's officially three years. It doesn't matter too much, a Labour govt will be looking harder at big corporates, and their other initiatives will improve productivity, employment levels, and the net tax returns.
Here's a compilation of mean tweets read out by the MPs or people concerned. Contains swearing beeped out.
How are we going to take that statement seriously ? Taxinda (and all those supporting her on this forum) have been saying she will not stand by and wait as the issues need dealing with ASAP and she will do it without taking it to an election to let the voters decide. Then she finally is told that she is wrong and asks Robinson to announce that her "Captain's Call" has turned into "Captain's Fail" , "Lets do this" turned into "Lets not do this" and you all continue like it was great that she saw her "mistake" (As JT put it) and changed her stand. No credibility left for Taxinda, Labour and you guys whatsoever.
How are we going to take that statement seriously ? Taxinda (and all those supporting her on this forum) have been saying she will not stand by and wait as the issues need dealing with ASAP and she will do it without taking it to an election to let the voters decide. Then she finally is told that she is wrong and asks Robinson to announce that her "Captain's Call" has turned into "Captain's Fail" , "Lets do this" turned into "Lets not do this" and you all continue like it was great that she saw her "mistake" (As JT put it) and changed her stand. No credibility left for Taxinda, Labour and you guys whatsoever.
How are we going to take that statement seriously ? Taxinda (and all those supporting her on this forum) have been saying she will not stand by and wait as the issues need dealing with ASAP and she will do it without taking it to an election to let the voters decide. Then she finally is told that she is wrong and asks Robinson to announce that her "Captain's Call" has turned into "Captain's Fail" , "Lets do this" turned into "Lets not do this" and you all continue like it was great that she saw her "mistake" (As JT put it) and changed her stand. No credibility left for Taxinda, Labour and you guys whatsoever.
Wasn't it National that increased GST for the masses with no indication at all? At least Labour will give a fair warning, and they're even prepared to let everyone vote on it.
Wasn't it National that increased GST for the masses with no indication at all? At least Labour will give a fair warning, and they're even prepared to let everyone vote on it.
As for Bill...
Stop being silly eZ. You know as well as I do the GST increase was more than offset by the drop in income tax rates. Time for a new and honest line of attack if you must harp on about our wonderful govt.
Stop being silly eZ. You know as well as I do the GST increase was more than offset by the drop in income tax rates. Time for a new and honest line of attack if you must harp on about our wonderful govt.
They're running on empty FP when all they have is harp on about that move and make no comment on what my post was about :-)
They're running on empty FP when all they have is harp on about that move and make no comment on what my post was about :-)
If you are referring to their decision to hold off tax increases until they have been detailed before an election,* they can hardly be thanked or congratulated for that. The decision to announce details after the massaged, hand-picked committee of her comrades had parrotted her recomendations, showed her extreme naivety.
*Your comment 'even prepared to let everyone vote on it' ........for Allah's sake ez - anything else would be 2cnd or 3rd world dictatorship conduct. NZ is first world still.
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If you are referring to their decision to hold off tax increases until they have been detailed before an election,* they can hardly be thanked or congratulated for that. The decision to announce details after the massaged, hand-picked committee of her comrades had parrotted her recomendations, showed her extreme naivety.
*Your comment 'even prepared to let everyone vote on it' ........for Allah's sake ez - anything else would be 2cnd or 3rd world dictatorship conduct. NZ is first world still.
John Key went to the polls in late 2008 assuring NZ voters that National would not be increasing GST from 12.5%. By February 2010 they were talking about doing just that. They dropped taxes at the top and increased them for the masses. Would National have been voted in if that was made clear in 2008? I doubt it. It's also an admission of failure to grow the economy. The tax base was being shredded, and didn't recover to Labour's levels for many years. Jobs and services paid for that.
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