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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Bill English's negotiation framework with Winston

    'Look Winston, the National Party has principles, but if you don't like them, well, we've got others'
    So true so funny so sad.

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    So it's up to announce to the nation "I am forming a government in coalition with ..."

    Surely Jacinda has the right to say "Labour will be forming the next government in ....."
    Or maybe Bill has a say

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    So it's up to announce to the nation "I am forming a government in coalition with ..."

    Surely Jacinda has the right to say "Labour will be forming the next government in ....."
    Or maybe Bill has a say

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    Surely all the coalition partners will be there to announce it jointly. It's one of the major parties brokering a deal with minor parties, it's just the press that has set it up looking like it does at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Surely all the coalition partners will be there to announce it jointly. .
    That would seem appropriate. Might also be useful for all potential coalition partners to get around the table well before coming to an agreed set of terms.

    Winston wont want to be upsetting 26% of the Green Party. If he does he won't be in Government with Labour.

    Would also be helpful from a timing perspective. Any deal Labour / NZ First wants has to get past the Greens. To do this the deal has to go in front of a greens Special General Meeting. So the deal has to go out to every Green Branch. Each Branch will then consider the deal and on reaching a consensus instruct their Branch Delegate how to vote. 75% of the vote has to be in favour.

    At the moment the Greens are probably sipping herbal tea around a campfire singing Kumbaya as they haven't got much else to do. And hoping maybe for a plea bargain deal for Meteria to be on offer as well.

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    Fuel tax increase considered for Akl transport BY NATIONAL . FUNDING HOLE lol

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    "It said the government was responsible for $1 billion to $2.1bn of the $5.9bn funding hole, with Auckland Council responsible for the remainder."

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    I sincerely hope National kick the Winston clown into touch and give him no option but to coalesce with Labour. He's Muldoon reborn, and longing to return NZ to the 1950s. This nonsense of wanting to lower the dollar, and at the same time bring down the price of housing - is unbelievable, and incompatible. He should go and ask a builder or architect how much content of a new house is imported. Whoever goes with Winston will be damaged. So Winston, Labour and the Greens, three groups of clowns, potentially buried for a few terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Fuel tax increase considered for Akl transport BY NATIONAL . FUNDING HOLE lol

    Dead cats lots of rats(inside the dead cat?)
    "It said the government was responsible for $1 billion to $2.1bn of the $5.9bn funding hole, with Auckland Council responsible for the remainder."
    National the TAXi party. Its on the table ,the petrol tax increase; what hypocrites, without principles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    So Winston, Labour and the Greens, three groups of clowns, potentially buried for a few terms.
    Along with ACT. Even with Seymour in the house they are history. Given the number of posts denigrating the left the right leaning posters are running scared of the possibilty of a left coalition, or even National with NZF It must be a nightmare result for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    I sincerely hope National kick the Winston clown into touch and give him no option but to coalesce with Labour. He's Muldoon reborn, and longing to return NZ to the 1950s. This nonsense of wanting to lower the dollar, and at the same time bring down the price of housing - is unbelievable, and incompatible. He should go and ask a builder or architect how much content of a new house is imported. Whoever goes with Winston will be damaged. So Winston, Labour and the Greens, three groups of clowns, potentially buried for a few terms.
    Maybe Nationals’ plan is to ratchet up negotiation talks to a point where they can’t agree to a deal with Winston. But in the meantime Winston and the Labour have agreed to such a raft of policy changes the Greens wont initially support. Except the Greens will eventually support which will lead to an unhappy coalition which will implode in 18 months. Leaving both Greens and NZ First way out in the cold next election

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    Wouldn't it be a great boost for politicians as representatives of the people if the two leaders got together and told Winston to take a walk. If they told him that his small percentage could not run the country and that they were prepared to go into parliament with the certain knowledge that parliament would fail and another election would be called where the voters would have to think twice before putting their mark on the paper.

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