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12-10-2017, 09:10 AM
#14581
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
That's probably the best possible outcome, and highly likely 'cos I think that's the way he has decided to go.
We'll Know within a week or two.
I'm concerned its looking like National.
That Peters isn't prepared to have Greens around the negotiating table doesn't bode well for a sign that he is prepared to work with them around the cabinet table. Also it appears only policy has been discussed - not ministerial positions. I cant see the Greens ratifying a deal unless there is an offer of Min of Environment on the table.
I'm struggling with Green leadership if James Shaw will simply "trust" Jacinda to eek out a deal. Labour wont have forgotten how good Greens are at deals when they put up a last minute candidate in Ohariu contrary to pre-agreement. And he does know, I presume, the Labour / Green MOU expired on Election day - there is no obligation for Labour to do anything for the Greens. Labours sole responsibility is to their constituency
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12-10-2017, 09:12 AM
#14582
Jacinda at the Green Parrot ....going to become the new cabinet room
And diplomatic protection boys in attendance ....hmmm
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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12-10-2017, 09:40 AM
#14583
Originally Posted by minimoke
I'm concerned its looking like National.
That Peters isn't prepared to have Greens around the negotiating table doesn't bode well for a sign that he is prepared to work with them around the cabinet table. Also it appears only policy has been discussed - not ministerial positions. I cant see the Greens ratifying a deal unless there is an offer of Min of Environment on the table.
I'm struggling with Green leadership if James Shaw will simply "trust" Jacinda to eek out a deal. Labour wont have forgotten how good Greens are at deals when they put up a last minute candidate in Ohariu contrary to pre-agreement. And he does know, I presume, the Labour / Green MOU expired on Election day - there is no obligation for Labour to do anything for the Greens. Labours sole responsibility is to their constituency
I think it's highly likely Winston and Labour might go into coalition, meaning Green's only option will be the cross-benches. This will give the coalition security because the Kermits will never vote with National. This would leave the Kermits with little power, but out of Winston First's face. That would explain why he sees no need to meet them before his big announcement.
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12-10-2017, 09:58 AM
#14584
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
I think it's highly likely Winston and Labour might go into coalition, meaning Green's only option will be the cross-benches. This will give the coalition security because the Kermits will never vote with National. This would leave the Kermits with little power, but out of Winston First's face. That would explain why he sees no need to meet them before his big announcement.
There is more entertainment in this thread than I have had for many years reading and contributing. What ever happens life wll go on and more than likely things wlll not change very much. They are all politicians after all with their main objective being to retain or improve their position.
westerly
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12-10-2017, 10:26 AM
#14585
Originally Posted by westerly
There is more entertainment in this thread than I have had for many years reading and contributing.
Just wait till the government is formed - there will be loads more fun to be had then!
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12-10-2017, 10:38 AM
#14586
Originally Posted by westerly
There is more entertainment in this thread than I have had for many years reading and contributing. What ever happens life wll go on and more than likely things wlll not change very much.
westerly
Do you really believe that comrade? Look at the changes in 1984. Of ccourse they were mainly for the better and jet propelled NZ into the twentieth century - albeit several decades late. But that shows just how much a govt. can turn things around. Then consider today's Labour party - loaded with green eyes wannabees, led by a brain-washed socialist, and paired with Winston First whose every utterence is about the past - 'the good old days of the 1950s'. There is real concern we would go backwards under a Labour/Winston coalition.
We are doing better slong with the rest of the world. We should stay on track.
https://www.sciencealert.com/these-7...s&limitstart=1
Last edited by fungus pudding; 12-10-2017 at 10:47 AM.
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12-10-2017, 10:42 AM
#14587
I have no idea which party will get it but i believe the hookerTAXi party national will stop for winston and offer a free ride but change the meter once he is in the taxi, they will do anything to get back in, they have proven that with this election.
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12-10-2017, 10:48 AM
#14588
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Do you really believe that comrade? Look at the changes in 1984. Of ccourse they were mainly for the better and jet propelled NZ into the twentieth century - albeit several decades late. But that shows just how much a govt. can turn things around. Then consider today's Labour party - loaded with green eyes wannabees, led by a brain-washed socialist, and paired with Winston First whose every utterence is about the past - 'the good old days of the 1950s'. There is real concern we would go backwards under a Labour/Winston coalition.
We are doing better slong with the rest of the world. We should stay on track.
https://www.sciencealert.com/these-7...s&limitstart=1
quote of the day ...no, of the last month
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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12-10-2017, 10:55 AM
#14589
Entertaining laugh of the week and yes so last month, reminds me of ummm, aah b english and his transparent fictitious stability through deception politicking , putting it politely, lying more bluntly. I just hope this really is winstons last term and he really does want to leave the country in a better place at the end of his term/turn.
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12-10-2017, 12:08 PM
#14590
The NZF President response to NBR when asked who is on their Board is that "You don't need to know their names. As simple as that and you just have to live with it". This Winston party is a joke
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