If National wins ...

[Joshuatree]

Its worth reading the article couta, getting another opinion.Gordon makes sense.

[winner69]

https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/..._to_drop_this/

[Joshuatree]

RNZ National on verge of being number one station in the country

[elZorro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/..._to_drop_this/

Disturbing insights about Winston there, if true. You have to say that every MP in parliament must have more than the usual share of ego. For a kickoff, they have their faces plastered all over the electorate. MPs need to behave within their party rules, although there is no formal code of conduct enforced or legislated by parliament. But it's surely a given that MPs need to have a sound mind to serve in office on behalf of constituents.

Bryce has a tidy/compelling list of 13 reasons for Winston to go with Labour-Greens. (Earlier, he had 10 for National).

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11932628

[iceman]

Even Winston knows about the environmental problems happening here and globally.Never a better time to have the greens in power to improve our situ and think global act local be a catalyst for others to follow suit. Stagnate if you wish to but be it in your own pool of your own making.

Everyone knows about the environmental challenges we face. Nearly everyone also agrees we need to do something serious about it. What if Winston went into Government with National and they decided to do something really serious about cleaning up our rivers for example, i.e. pour hundreds of millions into just doing it ? It would leave The Greens with yet another egg on their face and leave them even more irrelevant than they are already. They are just a bunch of protesters that have no idea how to use politics to their advantage, sadly.

[winner69]

Everyone knows about the environmental challenges we face. Nearly everyone also agrees we need to do something serious about it. What if Winston went into Government with National and they decided to something really serious about cleaning up our rivers for example, i.e. poor hundred of millions into just doing it ? It would leave The Greens with yet another egg on their face and leave them even more irrelevant than they are already. They are just a bunch of protesters that have no idea how to use politics to their advantage, sadly.

So true - the next three years could have been their time as part of a NAt Green government

Pig headedness prevailed though

[minimoke]

So true - the next three years could have been their time as part of a NAt Green government

Pig headedness prevailed though

One of NZ First environmental polices is "Make rivers and lakes fully swimmable by town and country working together."

Whats the bet this is one of the things on the table and it will be something both Labour and National will agree to. If there is a Minister of Waterways who will get the job. NZ First. The Greens are going to be redundant. No concessions on policy as Labour / NZ First will have the upper hand. No ministerial positions because their policy isn't at the forefront.

The only challenging job ahead of the Greens is decide who the next co-leader is going to be. And aint that going to be a hospital pass. Someone to help lead them into obscurity.

[iceman]

One of NZ First environmental polices is "Make rivers and lakes fully swimmable by town and country working together."

Whats the bet this is one of the things on the table and it will be something both Labour and National will agree to. If there is a Minister of Waterways who will get the job. NZ First. The Greens are going to be redundant. No concessions on policy as Labour / NZ First will have the upper hand. No ministerial positions because their policy isn't at the forefront.

The only challenging job ahead of the Greens is decide who the next co-leader is going to be. And aint that going to be a hospital pass. Someone to help lead them into obscurity.

Agree mm. I think cleaning up the waterways will be agreed to as a high priority by the next Government,as it should be and The Greens will have nothing to do with it.

[Joshuatree]

Everyone knows about the environmental challenges we face. Nearly everyone also agrees we need to do something serious about it. What if Winston went into Government with National and they decided to do something really serious about cleaning up our rivers for example, i.e. pour hundreds of millions into just doing it ? It would leave The Greens with yet another egg on their face and leave them even more irrelevant than they are already. They are just a bunch of protesters that have no idea how to use politics to their advantage, sadly.

Without the greens national will stay in their default position not giving a stuff but putting out token meaningless scraps which their base will snigger and wink about. Putting the greens with national would be like putting a ferret in a pigeons nest; they are not compatible based on the past and the contempt which sadly seems to have leaked into the subterranium zombie cortex of blind followers many of whom still deny global warming and pollution issues here. Blind leading the blind. Its impossible the greens have principles national have minimal.
i was struck by the beaming radiant smiles from jacinda and team as they left the last day of negotiations; it looked like they were trying to hold something exciting back, heres hoping the right thing will be done for our country.

[fungus pudding]

Without the greens national will stay in their default position not giving a stuff but putting out token meaningless scraps which their base will snigger and wink about. Putting the greens with national would be like putting a ferret in a pigeons nest; they are not compatible based on the past and the contempt which sadly seems to have leaked into the subterranium zombie cortex of blind followers many of whom still deny global warming and pollution issues here. Blind leading the blind. Its impossible the greens have principles national have minimal.
i was struck by the beaming radiant smiles from jacinda and team as they left the last day of negotiations; it looked like they were trying to hold something exciting back, heres hoping the right thing will be done for our country.

Winston has assured us he will be doing the right thing for the country, which you can interpret as doing the best thing for Winston even if it's the worst thing for the country; that is going with Labour.