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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    How if that makes them stateless?
    In 2006 NZ became a party to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness
    We did so with the following statement
    Declaration:
    "[New Zealand] declares that in accordance with
    paragraph 3 of article 8 of the Convention New Zealand
    retains the right to deprive a person of his New Zealand
    citizenship on the following grounds, being grounds
    existing in New Zealand law at the present time:
    the person has, while a New Zealand citizen and while
    of or over the age of 18 years and of full capacity,
    (a) Acquired the nationality or citizenship of another
    country by any voluntary and formal act, and acted in a
    manner that is contrary to the interests of New Zealand; or
    (b) Voluntarily exercised any of the privileges or
    performed any of the duties of another nationality or
    citizenship possessed by him in a manner that is contrary
    to the interests of New Zealand."

    So we could have dropped her as a citizen if we had done it before Aussie but it is now too late under our law.

    Australia never signed - they don't give a toss really.
    https://www.govt.nz/browse/passports...z-citizenship/

    Nothing to stop NZ from revoking her citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Do you know for sure if she is 'radicalized' or now regrets her foolishness?
    I suspect you have made some assumptions about her current state of mind.
    It will be interesting to see how she reacts.
    She will need a lot of support either way, as will the children.
    She can get plenty of support from ISIS sympathizers in Iran or Syria - and a few more bastard children too by the sound of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.govt.nz/browse/passports...z-citizenship/

    Nothing to stop NZ from revoking her citizenship.
    But not if it makes her stateless because we signed up to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    But not if it makes her stateless because we signed up to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness.
    But she is not stateless - she is a citizen of the ISIS caliphate, which is still operating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Will there be anything stopping her and the children travelling to Australia? Where she has family.
    She will not be eligible to be granted a passport, nor will she likely be granted access to any foreign country even if she possessed a passport.

    Her life and that of her Syrian born (as I understand it) children in NZ will be tightly controlled by our security services.
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    Poor wee Judith - people are being 'malicious and nasty' to her.
    Pots and kettles come to mind.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-williams.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Poor wee Judith - people are being 'malicious and nasty' to her.
    Pots and kettles come to mind.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-williams.html
    You need to go back to school for comprehension - she was referring to the malicious & nasty way her comments about Poto ‘I represent South Auckland Maori & Pacific Islanders’ Williams were misrepresented. Her comments - not her, savvy?

    As for Poto’s daughter concerned about her mother’s safety, I have yet to read anything more pathetic from a politician attempting to milk sympathy & attention even while she (Poto) showed she could not care less about police safety & gun violence.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-poto-williams
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    Judith makes a big noise about the money spent on the programme for drug addiction - supposedly paying the Mongrol Mob when National did the same.
    She got a roasting in question time yesterday.
    She is just so useless! Why can't we have a real opposition? Democracy needs a functioning opposition.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...d-2-reach.html

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    Blimy, the disfunction & shambles continues, no accountability, no reset, no lessons learnt, no refresh, what a disappointment.
    Dinosaurs, what else can you say.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...-in-goodfellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Blimy, the disfunction & shambles continues, no accountability, no reset, no lessons learnt, no refresh, what a disappointment.
    Dinosaurs, what else can you say.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...-in-goodfellow
    Yup - Goodfellow must be tossed out.

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