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29-07-2021, 02:35 PM
#15131
Originally Posted by dobby41
How if that makes them stateless?
In 2006 NZ became a party to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness
We did so with the following statement
Declaration:
"[New Zealand] declares that in accordance with
paragraph 3 of article 8 of the Convention New Zealand
retains the right to deprive a person of his New Zealand
citizenship on the following grounds, being grounds
existing in New Zealand law at the present time:
the person has, while a New Zealand citizen and while
of or over the age of 18 years and of full capacity,
(a) Acquired the nationality or citizenship of another
country by any voluntary and formal act, and acted in a
manner that is contrary to the interests of New Zealand; or
(b) Voluntarily exercised any of the privileges or
performed any of the duties of another nationality or
citizenship possessed by him in a manner that is contrary
to the interests of New Zealand."
So we could have dropped her as a citizen if we had done it before Aussie but it is now too late under our law.
Australia never signed - they don't give a toss really.
https://www.govt.nz/browse/passports...z-citizenship/
Nothing to stop NZ from revoking her citizenship.
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29-07-2021, 02:36 PM
#15132
Originally Posted by dobby41
Do you know for sure if she is 'radicalized' or now regrets her foolishness?
I suspect you have made some assumptions about her current state of mind.
It will be interesting to see how she reacts.
She will need a lot of support either way, as will the children.
She can get plenty of support from ISIS sympathizers in Iran or Syria - and a few more bastard children too by the sound of it.
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29-07-2021, 03:22 PM
#15133
Originally Posted by Balance
But not if it makes her stateless because we signed up to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness.
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29-07-2021, 03:35 PM
#15134
Originally Posted by dobby41
But not if it makes her stateless because we signed up to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness.
But she is not stateless - she is a citizen of the ISIS caliphate, which is still operating.
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29-07-2021, 09:16 PM
#15135
Originally Posted by artemis
Will there be anything stopping her and the children travelling to Australia? Where she has family.
She will not be eligible to be granted a passport, nor will she likely be granted access to any foreign country even if she possessed a passport.
Her life and that of her Syrian born (as I understand it) children in NZ will be tightly controlled by our security services.
Last edited by Zaphod; 29-07-2021 at 09:45 PM.
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04-08-2021, 12:34 PM
#15136
Poor wee Judith - people are being 'malicious and nasty' to her.
Pots and kettles come to mind.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-williams.html
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04-08-2021, 03:46 PM
#15137
Originally Posted by dobby41
You need to go back to school for comprehension - she was referring to the malicious & nasty way her comments about Poto ‘I represent South Auckland Maori & Pacific Islanders’ Williams were misrepresented. Her comments - not her, savvy?
As for Poto’s daughter concerned about her mother’s safety, I have yet to read anything more pathetic from a politician attempting to milk sympathy & attention even while she (Poto) showed she could not care less about police safety & gun violence.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-poto-williams
Last edited by Balance; 04-08-2021 at 05:39 PM.
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05-08-2021, 08:42 AM
#15138
Judith makes a big noise about the money spent on the programme for drug addiction - supposedly paying the Mongrol Mob when National did the same.
She got a roasting in question time yesterday.
She is just so useless! Why can't we have a real opposition? Democracy needs a functioning opposition.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...d-2-reach.html
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08-08-2021, 01:54 PM
#15139
Blimy, the disfunction & shambles continues, no accountability, no reset, no lessons learnt, no refresh, what a disappointment.
Dinosaurs, what else can you say.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...-in-goodfellow
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08-08-2021, 05:34 PM
#15140
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Yup - Goodfellow must be tossed out.
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