If National wins ...

[Panda-NZ-]

NZ needs Chris bishop (tm).

Make it happen National.

[Logen Ninefingers]

Judith Collins is another Jamie-Lee Ross; a person who has utterly lost the plot and has now gone rogue and become a wrecker (or 'crusher') of her own party.

[Balance]

Judith Collins is another Jamie-Lee Ross; a person who has utterly lost the plot and has now gone rogue and become a wrecker (or 'crusher') of her own party.

If she loses the leadership, she could stay around like that loser Muldoon - a lingering bad smell, that's the danger for National.

[Logen Ninefingers]

The 10 am press conference has been pushed back as the 'crisis caucus meeting' continues. Oh to be a fly on the wall. If Jacqui Dean has been stewing and fretting over a crude comment for 5 years then she had better stuff her ears full of cotton wool and then put on some ear muffs as added protection, as the language will be blue, sailors will be blushing, and the temperature will exceed boiling point.

[Balance]

Judith is gone burger.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nation...OACPMFXFKSJAY/

Excerpts :

"Neutralising Bridges may well be enough for Collins personally. But her own MPs and the party itself will not forgive her for the chaos she has thrown the party into. Rather than burning down a house to save the village, Collins seems to have tried to burn down the village to save the house."

"She is expected to be gone by lunchtime and deserves to be. The scenes that played out as National MPs headed into today's caucus meeting were as visceral as politics gets. MPs were furious that once again they were in disarray – and this time Collins was being blamed for it, for her late-night press release without speaking to the caucus first."

And is Jacqui Dean really to be blamed for bringing up the sex joke this time round or is it but a convenient excuse for Collins to damage Bridges?

"Collins' attempts to thwart her rival's bid for the leadership amount to revisiting an allegation about what seems on the face of it at least a very crude, bad-taste joke which Bridges aimed at the wrong audience: Jacqui Dean. Bridges was spoken to at the time by former leader Bill English. He apologised to Dean. Dean subsequently supported Bridges' leadership bid in early 2018, and stuck with Bridges against the Todd Muller challenge. She was one of his most steady supporters."

[Logen Ninefingers]

Judith is gone burger.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nation...OACPMFXFKSJAY/

Excerpts :

"Neutralising Bridges may well be enough for Collins personally. But her own MPs and the party itself will not forgive her for the chaos she has thrown the party into. Rather than burning down a house to save the village, Collins seems to have tried to burn down the village to save the house."

"She is expected to be gone by lunchtime and deserves to be. The scenes that played out as National MPs headed into today's caucus meeting were as visceral as politics gets. MPs were furious that once again they were in disarray – and this time Collins was being blamed for it, for her late-night press release without speaking to the caucus first."

And is Jacqui Dean really to be blamed for bringing up the sex joke this time round or is it but a convenient excuse for Collins to damage Bridges?

"Collins' attempts to thwart her rival's bid for the leadership amount to revisiting an allegation about what seems on the face of it at least a very crude, bad-taste joke which Bridges aimed at the wrong audience: Jacqui Dean. Bridges was spoken to at the time by former leader Bill English. He apologised to Dean. Dean subsequently supported Bridges' leadership bid in early 2018, and stuck with Bridges against the Todd Muller challenge. She was one of his most steady supporters."

And is Jacqui Dean really to be blamed for bringing up the sex joke this time round or is it but a convenient excuse for Collins to damage Bridges?

I think we know the answer to that. It was dealt with back when Bill English was leader! Collins has exhumed it as the best available piece of dirt that she can damage Soimon with. She is like a mortally wounded Moby Dick, trying to inflict maximum carnage in her death agonies.

[Logen Ninefingers]

two minutes ago....
National MPs are just heading back into the meeting now after a "short water and toilet break". The meeting was originally scheduled to wrap up an hour ago.

[Entrep]

They really need to livestream it

[Logen Ninefingers]

They really need to livestream it

Imagine someone secretly videos it and releases it. Would be fascinating.

[Blue Skies]

Imagine someone secretly videos it and releases it. Would be fascinating.

The longer this crisis meeting goes on, the more bruising this is & the more damage being done.
Like a heavy weight match, I think some of us thought Bridges would deliver the knock out blow in the early rounds & it would all be over, but like a couple of wounded boxers they're still going at it 3 hours later.
Who's going to stagger out to front the podium, claiming the party is unified behind them?