If National wins ...

[fungus pudding]

And Poto (loo) Williams, minister of police & associate housing minister.

Clueless, incompetent and dangerously pro-criminals.

True, but she wasn't forgotten or overlooked. She's on the list at post 15413 with Davis, Twyford, Jackson et al.

[Balance]

Luxton to be the new leader?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...w-party-course

[BlackPeter]

Luxton to be the new leader?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...w-party-course

Just a bit worried he might turn the leftovers of Crasher Judith into a hard-right religious sect. Maybe he could join forces with Tamaki?

Will his poll results still reach into two digit territory or is National following on the heels of "Advance NZ"? We seem to have every election some religious nutter party, so why not National doing the job this time?

And hey, Judith managed already to cut Nationals polling numbers in half after replacing Bridges, so why shouldn't Chris repeat this trick ? It seems to be really important for National not to represent the electorate, but to try to force the views of whoever happens to lead them on the country. Worked with Judith like a charm, particularly the praying stunt - didn't it?

Not sure what Sir John thinks now about his party (but didn't he got Luxton into politics?) ... but hey ...

I see golden times rolling on for ACT ...

[Getty]

Worked with Judith like a charm, particularly the praying stunt - didn't it?

There is a lot of preying going on alright...

[777]

Get it right. It is Luxon not Luxton. As in it was Key not Keys.

[Getty]

Get it right. It is Luxon not Luxton. As in it was Key not Keys.

It remains to be seen if his Lucks in.

One or two Bridges to be crossed before he gets there.

[Getty]

Get it right. It is Luxon not Luxton. As in it was Key not Keys.

Some of them may be getting mixed up with Buxton Urinals, but they are just taking the piss...

[iceman]

Just a bit worried he might turn the leftovers of Crasher Judith into a hard-right religious sect. Maybe he could join forces with Tamaki?

Will his poll results still reach into two digit territory or is National following on the heels of "Advance NZ"? We seem to have every election some religious nutter party, so why not National doing the job this time?

And hey, Judith managed already to cut Nationals polling numbers in half after replacing Bridges, so why shouldn't Chris repeat this trick ? It seems to be really important for National not to represent the electorate, but to try to force the views of whoever happens to lead them on the country. Worked with Judith like a charm, particularly the praying stunt - didn't it?

Not sure what Sir John thinks now about his party (but didn't he got Luxton into politics?) ... but hey ...

I see golden times rolling on for ACT ...

What has Luxon done to make you think he’d turn National into a “hard right religious sect” ?
I think he’s much more likely to run it, if he gets selected, as a soft center-right party like John Key did.
The main thing is that they come out of this unified and start attacking this useless Government on it’s many weak policy areas

[ronaldson]

This thread may be misnamed. It seems to me we are possibly entering territory where the Centre Right can win due to the clear incompetence of Labour, but the largest party within that bloc may be ACT.

However it is, candidate selection for ACT will be a critical concern. It may have been fortunate it was not necessary to go further down the ACT List last time. Remember the rabble that came in to Parliament on Peter Dunne's coat tails a few elections ago now? Peter was a very safe pair of hands, a competent Minister in governments of both hues, and an able Parliamentary Member but the actual UF party had no depth at all and those elected with Peter on that occasion were a conspicuous fail.

If the current ACT MPs stay on task/message, keep a clean slate, and Seymour holds it all together, they may overtake National especially if disunity within that party continues and other "scandals" of whatever nature arise going forward.

[artemis]

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If the current ACT MPs stay on task/message, keep a clean slate, and Seymour holds it all together, they may overtake National especially if disunity within that party continues and other "scandals" of whatever nature arise going forward.

ACT MPs are mostly insufficiently experienced to take on big roles in a coalition government. I am certain that they are working hard to understand their shadow portfolios and the wider political environment, but one term is just not enough. Jamie Whyte might be persuaded to take a significant strategy role. And there are other previous ACT leaders who are probably already working behind the scenes.