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    We already have a decent economy though, so nothing for national to run on (not that they were any good at their core mission).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Better than Clueless Cindy, Willie Jackson, Poto Williams, Kris Faafoi & Kelvin Davis.

    Read this yet :

    https://democracyproject.nz/2021/11/...f-david-lange/

    Then we can have a meaningful discussion about where NZ is heading under COCID Cindy.


    Who's COCID Cindy?

    Better decompress Balance, not good for your health to be so tightly coiled & wound up all the time.

    I think you've posted this link a number of times before, but i'ld be more interested in your views & reasons.
    Its a bit early to speculate on how history will judge Adern, and just another opinion piece from the writers on who/what is driving policy.

    But once again you're deflecting away from the points I was making, which was National not Labour committed NZ & set us on to this course, & its slightly absurd to label it as apartheid.
    Whatever it is, co-governance, partnership, parallel development etc, & whether anyone agrees with it or not, it is not apartheid & foolish to call it such.


    Can we leave the meaningful discussion about where NZ is heading for another time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Who's COCID Cindy?

    Better decompress Balance, not good for your health to be so tightly coiled & wound up all the time.

    I think you've posted this link a number of times before, but i'ld be more interested in your views & reasons.
    Its a bit early to speculate on how history will judge Adern, and just another opinion piece from the writers on who/what is driving policy.

    But once again you're deflecting away from the points I was making, which was National not Labour committed NZ & set us on to this course, & its slightly absurd to label it as apartheid.
    Whatever it is, co-governance, partnership, parallel development etc, & whether anyone agrees with it or not, it is not apartheid & foolish to call it such.


    Can we leave the meaningful discussion about where NZ is heading for another time?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine...oana)_Act_2011

    Authored by Sir John Key.. while being opposed by Labour, NZF, Act and the greens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    We already have a decent economy though, so nothing for national to run on (not that they were any good at their core mission).
    An economy on artificial steroids - borrowed money to the tune of $1 billion per week - 26% GDP of debt to generate less than 7% of GDP growth.

    As useless a government as ever could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Who's COCID Cindy?

    Better decompress Balance, not good for your health to be so tightly coiled & wound up all the time.

    I think you've posted this link a number of times before, but i'ld be more interested in your views & reasons.
    Its a bit early to speculate on how history will judge Adern, and just another opinion piece from the writers on who/what is driving policy.

    But once again you're deflecting away from the points I was making, which was National not Labour committed NZ & set us on to this course, & its slightly absurd to label it as apartheid.
    Whatever it is, co-governance, partnership, parallel development etc, & whether anyone agrees with it or not, it is not apartheid & foolish to call it such.


    Can we leave the meaningful discussion about where NZ is heading for another time?
    When a minority is given preferential rights and access based upon race as a criteria, it is apartheid.

    Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    An economy on artificial steroids - borrowed money to the tune of $1 billion per week - 26% GDP of debt to generate less than 7% of GDP growth.

    As useless a government as ever could be.
    They were in govt for a whole three years before then, when the stock market nearly doubled.

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    Good speech.

    Note the pointed barbs at Clueless ‘all spin & no delivery’ Cindy.

    Ouch!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...y-lost-in-2020

    He should have said ‘10,000 new homes a year’ headline grabbing announcement. Delivery - less than 300 a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Good speech.

    Note the pointed barbs at Clueless ‘all spin & no delivery’ Cindy.

    Ouch!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...y-lost-in-2020

    He should have said ‘10,000 new homes a year’ headline grabbing announcement. Delivery - less than 300 a year.
    Certainly refreshing to see a politician listen to questions and give straight, clear answers, unlike all the Ministers in the Ardern Government

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Certainly refreshing to see a politician listen to questions and give straight, clear answers, unlike all the Ministers in the Ardern Government
    All of Cindy’s ministers are sent to Spin school and it is a requirement that they do a refresher course every six months on how to spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Certainly refreshing to see a politician listen to questions and give straight, clear answers, unlike all the Ministers in the Ardern Government
    Agreed. Hopefully this represents a real turning point for National. Luxon is real Prime Minister material, something neither Collins or Bridges could ever project.

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