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    Quote Originally Posted by Swala View Post
    Agreed. Hopefully this represents a real turning point for National. Luxon is real Prime Minister material, something neither Collins or Bridges could ever project.
    Not before time, we desperately need to exit the dark tunnel we currently find ourselves in under the "Red Ice Queen".

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    David might lose his support and get back under 5% (poll average of 2% under Simon).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Dave might lose his support and get back under 5% now (poll average of 2% under Simon).

    It's time for an adjustment to the unfair coat-tail rules.
    Why did you wait for Jim Anderton to die before suggesting that? It's different when labour does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    What does it mean to be an evangelical Christian?

    Chris Trotter discusses it in this article.

    “Chris Luxon has been identified as an evangelical Christian. That’s why I believe Chris Luxon owes New Zealanders a working definition of evangelical Christianity – and how he intends to practice it.

    A private matter? Well, that might be true if Luxon was a person moving into private life.

    What, then, is generally understood by the term Christian evangelism? At its core, evangelism is about the active spreading of Christ’s teachings – especially among those who are ignorant of his message. For a politician to identify himself as an evangelical Christian is, therefore, a matter of considerable importance.

    If such politicians are genuine in their self-characterisation, then they will take every opportunity their public office provides to proselytise on behalf of their faith. They will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices they believe to be evil. To do all they can to save the souls of those who are in the grip of sin. Christian evangelism is, above all else, faith in action.”

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/11/0...s-chris-luxon/
    Was this card overplayed by Mr Luxon's political foes ?

    Turns out he has not been to church for 5 yrs, from NZ Herald.

    Will that now make him a sinner in the eyes of those foes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    Was this card overplayed by Mr Luxon's opponents ?

    Turns out he has not been to church for 5 yrs, from NZ Herald.

    Will that now make him a sinner in the eyes of the opponents?
    Yet talks about his faith in political discussions (so much for church and state seperation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Smith View Post
    Why did you wait for Jim Anderton to die before suggesting that? It's different when labour does it?
    There was a referendum in 2011 to try and remove MMP and let a minority rule over NZ.

    Dave should have to justify why 1/20 of voters should vote for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    There was a referendum in 2011 to try and remove MMP and let a minority rule over NZ.

    Dave should have to justify why 1/20 of voters should vote for him.
    Another ridiculous comment. It's the voters who decide who to vote for. Not the candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Another ridiculous comment. It's the voters who decide who to vote for. Not the candidate.
    That's putting it mildly to say the least

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    Looks like they blue it.
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