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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Well, he seems to be held in high esteem by his peers in the journalistic world. Don't shoot the messenger FP.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Oram
    That's because of his ability as a writer. There's no doubt he can construct a sentence on various subjects, but such awards ignore bias. He's a shocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    That's because of his ability as a writer. There's no doubt he can construct a sentence on various subjects, but such awards ignore bias. He's a shocker.
    Is he biased, or just making the effort to point out useful govt policy? Maybe he would make a great politician, or would it kill his energy?

    He's emotionally attached to some of these ideas, that's for sure.

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    Given that only 29% of NZ voters thought Shearer was the best leader of the opposition vs 28% for Russell Norman ..... isn't the fervent PLP support for Shearer coming from the other 3 future leadership contenders Parker, Robertson and Little, who don't want Cunliffe to steal a march on them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major von Tempsky View Post
    Given that only 29% of NZ voters thought Shearer was the best leader of the opposition vs 28% for Russell Norman ..... isn't the fervent PLP support for Shearer coming from the other 3 future leadership contenders Parker, Robertson and Little, who don't want Cunliffe to steal a march on them?
    Actually I like the look of the background of David Parker, MVT. He'd make a good deputy for Shearer perhaps. FP will be happy - David Cunliffe is out of the picture for a while. I think he's done David Shearer a favour.

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    [QUOTE=elZorro;385728]Actually I like the look of the background of David Parker, MVT. [QUOTE]

    Perhaps you should have a closer look at his background.

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    Hmmm, according to the media this morning "many MPs refused to commit themselves for the February vote".

    But then he'd (Parker) would make a good deputy to Cunliffe perhaps.

    So, say Shearer gets a bit of a sympathy/dead cat bounce in the next poll and then inexorably, bit by bit his support keeps slipping away in the polls to the next February vote....

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    This whole debacle means little to the committed Labour voter who has followed his parents and would rather cut off his ear than vote National. Some, and I suspect quite a few, will be glad to see the end of Cunliffe. If he climbs back to the top and gains any significant support, then I suspect that Labour will be in more trouble than they can cope with. All the people he has alienated will be off together with Shearers supporters - we might even see a brand new New Labour.

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    New Labour-now where have I heard that before? Oh,that's right, it absolutely screwed the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimwin View Post
    New Labour-now where have I heard that before? Oh,that's right, it absolutely screwed the UK.
    And never forget Comrade Jim Anderton formed 'The New Labour party' in 1989 after leaving the original labour mob.

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    Maybe its aboutime for someone outside th Labour party to steal the initiative and create a party that is based on the principals of the olriginal socialists. The evolution of technology is rapidly reducing the need for"workers" to fill the varius roles and we are reaching the stage where we need to reevaluate the concept of employers and employees. Milliions of "jobs" worldwide are being replaced by bits of technologyand this will not lessen with time. How do we deal with the unemployment that that will cause? I am happy to live on pension and continue to brew the ethanol ( bourbon brand) that allows me to rave on at 11.22 on aWednesday night. I might even cut a cord or so of wood tomorrow to buy some more sugar to make some ethanol or I might do a bit more fencing. Ironically, at 75 I appear to be self employed as well as pissed as aferret. And I am more than happy with that situation

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