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    Winner, You could easily be referring to the mayor of Auckland.... ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    so 95,000 voters wasted their vote on a party led by a sleazy dude who seemed to have the hots for his press secretary and maybe paid her off for her silence (maybe) ..... all from a man who stood for family values and all that

    EZ, where will those voters go now - nearly 4% up for grabs
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    Interesting piece. Replace Cameron with Key and you have NZ ....and a few here agree with the gist

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...socialism-old/

    Love that term gerontocracy - 'We are moving towards a gerontocracy, where the smartest financial move you can make is to grow old; where politicians go hoarse as they shout of their love for ‘hard-working families’, while all the time directing subsidies to families who don’t work at all.'

    I have sent this to Key pointing out this 'triple lock' thing. Jeez if he did that that then Nats got itmade for good - "We are moving towards a society where parties win by offering the biggest bribes they can to elderly voters; where the taxes of the young people support the leisure of the expanding number of old people.'

    But then CT have already told him this eh EZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Interesting piece. Replace Cameron with Key and you have NZ ....and a few here agree with the gist

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...socialism-old/

    Love that term gerontocracy - 'We are moving towards a gerontocracy, where the smartest financial move you can make is to grow old; where politicians go hoarse as they shout of their love for ‘hard-working families’, while all the time directing subsidies to families who don’t work at all.'

    I have sent this to Key pointing out this 'triple lock' thing. Jeez if he did that that then Nats got itmade for good - "We are moving towards a society where parties win by offering the biggest bribes they can to elderly voters; where the taxes of the young people support the leisure of the expanding number of old people.'

    But then CT have already told him this eh EZ
    It's fairly obvious that National are trying for the older voter, just like Winston. Many of John's comments are aimed at them, like his most recent comments about climate change and the link to epic floods. It's not proven is it?

    Don't know about you W69, but I'm trying to set up a stable ongoing income for my retirement, and the pension doesn't feature in it much. Mind you, this National govt isn't making it easy. More indications of dropping income streams into NZ from Rabobank.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...y+23+June+2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    It's fairly obvious that National are trying for the older voter, just like Winston. Many of John's comments are aimed at them, like his most recent comments about climate change and the link to epic floods. It's not proven is it?

    Don't know about you W69, but I'm trying to set up a stable ongoing income for my retirement, and the pension doesn't feature in it much. Mind you, this National govt isn't making it easy. More indications of dropping income streams into NZ from Rabobank.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...y+23+June+2015
    Talk of 'capping' the use of the Super Goldcard on the buses and trains and ferries is getting the oldies up in arms.

    John better listen - for a few million why bother cause a fuss and disenfranchise his voter base winston seems quite on this as well.

    Nice cafe in Days Bay. I enjoy the free ride on the ferry over there. Have lunch and a nice ferry ride ack. Be better when the wife gets to go for free as well.

    Take that little treat away and you won't be getting my vote John (not that I vote for him anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Talk of 'capping' the use of the Super Goldcard on the buses and trains and ferries is getting the oldies up in arms.

    John better listen - for a few million why bother cause a fuss and disenfranchise his voter base winston seems quite on this as well.

    Nice cafe in Days Bay. I enjoy the free ride on the ferry over there. Have lunch and a nice ferry ride ack. Be better when the wife gets to go for free as well.

    Take that little treat away and you won't be getting my vote John (not that I vote for him anyway)
    Well, who do you vote for W69? Labour perhaps? Winston?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Well, who do you vote for W69? Labour perhaps? Winston?
    Last time I will admit I was one of 95,000 who voted for that sleazy character who might have got spruced by that media person

    In 2017 who knows .....

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    Had a ONECARD since the beginning and used it once on an Auckland bus and maybe half a dozen times at The Mad Butcher for a small discout. no other use to me. Fly Buys usually pays for a night in a motel about once a year on trips overseas from Auckland. Farmlands gets me credit and some very good discounts. Reading the UK International Express, there is a very good article on pensions, related tax and the power of that vote. Winston will have to come up with something fairly spectacular to make gains. I haven't heard much from his electorate? Is he actually achieving anything up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Hi winner - no stress ... your original post could easily construed as them having negative equity (but yes, it depends how you read it). I agree, their debts are higher than their net equity (i.e. liabilities to assets roughly 66%), which is quite standard for this industry (SML - 62%, PGW - 58%).

    However - now that we clarified that, we probably can go back to the original purpose of this thread (which I think is to give EZ a platform to praise Labour ... ).
    We were discussing debt/borrowings and equity

    Fonterra debt/(debt + equity) about 54%

    PGW same ratio 27%

    Confirm both dont have negative equity

    Couldn't be bothered looking up Synlait ratio

    Hmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Last time I will admit I was one of 95,000 who voted for that sleazy character who might have got spruced by that media person

    In 2017 who knows .....
    Did you mean spurned W69? In any case your vote direction is interesting. I'll have to have a look at their policies.

    But no wonder you've been looking for Labour's point of difference, since. They might not be flashy, but they do have good solid policies, and they know how to run the govt books and get people employed. I'm trying to get them to pick up their marketing in a small way, but haven't been making much headway so far. It seems to be a big slow-moving animal, the Labour Party.

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    I've thrown a few bucks behind James Shaw for doing this. Good on him

    http://bigsleepout.org.nz/page/jamesshaw

    If one comes to this part of the world I'd do it ......even if to remember the nights I slept rough at the Basin Reserve when I was young ....because of the state I was in and lost my bearings. Was middle of summer though

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