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21-05-2020, 01:49 PM
#3451
Originally Posted by Balance
Caution :
PLX made a loss in H2.
And they were still recruiting to service the McD contract. So costs are going to increase in H1 2021.
Seen too many of these type of deals in the past - IBM was infamous for sucking small service provider contractors dry before picking them up for a song, or simply allowing them to fall by the wayside after completion of contracts.
Then there’s Wynyard and Provenco - heaps of long tail contracts requiring extensive servicing & support which ended up bankrupting both.
Better hope that PLX’s McD contract is different!
B S Bal, can you ever admit you got this one wrong, let it go and get back to MMH !
ps there is another back door listing that you haven't rubbished and slagged off, MEE , and your old friends are all over that one!!
Last edited by whatsup; 21-05-2020 at 01:50 PM.
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21-05-2020, 02:18 PM
#3452
Balance's comments re customers are a distraction and reflect his bias.
Sure PLX may have been strongly linked to McD customers at one stage. But this will change as other clients grow and PLX's contracts evolve. Here's some pertinent comment from the just released AR.
The Company’s revenue from contracts with customers of $25.251m does not directly correlate to our user numbers. This is because over 87% of the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers is linked to contracts that were signed in 2014 with pricing mainly based on store numbers. Only a small percentage of FY20 revenue from contracts with customers is linked to consumer usage. In 2019, this pricing model was changed with new customer contracts being based on digital adoption, which will mean that as consumer usage grows so too will the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers.
From this we can deduce that future revenues will more accurately reflect customer and usage numbers. Plus with user numbers set to increase from 187mill to 500 mill, there will be increased benefits of scale.
Last edited by Leftfield; 21-05-2020 at 02:19 PM.
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21-05-2020, 02:21 PM
#3453
Originally Posted by whatsup
B S Bal, can you ever admit you got this one wrong, let it go and get back to MMH !
ps there is another back door listing that you haven't rubbished and slagged off, MEE , and your old friends are all over that one!!
comvita comes to mind , balance rubbished it big time and like plx is one of the best performers this year.
one step ahead of the herd
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21-05-2020, 02:22 PM
#3454
Originally Posted by Left field
Balance's comments re customers are a distraction and reflect his bias.
Sure PLX may have been strongly linked to McD customers at one stage. But this will change as other clients grow and PLX's contracts evolve. Here's some pertinent comment from the just released AR.
The Company’s revenue from contracts with customers of $25.251m does not directly correlate to our user numbers. This is because over 87% of the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers is linked to contracts that were signed in 2014 with pricing mainly based on store numbers. Only a small percentage of FY20 revenue from contracts with customers is linked to consumer usage. In 2019, this pricing model was changed with new customer contracts being based on digital adoption, which will mean that as consumer usage grows so too will the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers.
From this we can deduce that future revenues will more accurately reflect customer and usage numbers. Plus with user numbers set to increase from 187mill to 500 mill, there will be increased benefits of scale.
Well said LF, those who can understand and decipher the changing model will appreciate PLX future prospects.
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21-05-2020, 02:23 PM
#3455
Originally Posted by Left field
Balance's comments re customers are a distraction and reflect his bias.
Sure PLX may have been strongly linked to McD customers at one stage. But this will change as other clients grow and PLX's contracts evolve. Here's some pertinent comment from the just released AR.
The Company’s revenue from contracts with customers of $25.251m does not directly correlate to our user numbers. This is because over 87% of the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers is linked to contracts that were signed in 2014 with pricing mainly based on store numbers. Only a small percentage of FY20 revenue from contracts with customers is linked to consumer usage. In 2019, this pricing model was changed with new customer contracts being based on digital adoption, which will mean that as consumer usage grows so too will the Company’s revenue from contracts with customers.
From this we can deduce that future revenues will more accurately reflect customer and usage numbers. Plus with user numbers set to increase from 187mill to 500 mill, there will be increased benefits of scale.
You are assuming - you should get confirmation which I am sure PLX will be only too happy to give, and provide you too with some sensitivities of how their profit will grow with number of customer.
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21-05-2020, 02:49 PM
#3456
Originally Posted by Balance
You are assuming - you should get confirmation which I am sure PLX will be only too happy to give, and provide you too with some sensitivities of how their profit will grow with number of customer.
Your assuming that McD's is happy to get its "pound of flesh' by screwing PLX's profit.
IMHO McD's will get their cake and eat it via PLX share price appreciation on their original investment - as PLX's profits grow.
But then what do I know I'm just a happy holder from .21c with a big portion happily 'free-hold."
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21-05-2020, 02:50 PM
#3457
Originally Posted by whatsup
B S Bal, can you ever admit you got this one wrong, let it go and get back to MMH !
ps there is another back door listing that you haven't rubbished and slagged off, MEE , and your old friends are all over that one!!
Oh dear!
Bid side suddenly looking very thin indeed.
Maybe some punters are waking up to the fact that PLX made a LOSS in the second half and the possibility that next year could be even worse?
Last edited by Balance; 21-05-2020 at 02:59 PM.
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21-05-2020, 02:52 PM
#3458
Originally Posted by Left field
Your assuming that McD's is happy to get its "pound of flesh' by screwing PLX's profit.
IMHO McD's will get their cake and eat it via PLX share price appreciation on their original investment - as PLX's profits grow.
But then what do I know I'm just a happy holder from .21c with a big portion happily 'free-hold."
Which part of PLX making a LOSS in the second half, with more costs - especially staff, to pile on in F2021 with the McD contract do you not get?
And well done to you - as happy as I am with my Serko shares at 29c too - but what about the ones sucked in by the self-confessed rampers on this stock & thread?
Last edited by Balance; 21-05-2020 at 02:54 PM.
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21-05-2020, 02:59 PM
#3459
Junior Member
Originally Posted by Balance
Which part of PLX making a LOSS in the second half, with more costs - especially staff, to pile on in F2021 with the McD contract do you not get?
And well done to you - as happy as I am with my Serko shares at 29c too - but what about the ones sucked in by the self-confessed rampers on this stock & thread?
I believe the magnificent Serko also made a loss in their first half (pre the virus). Have they ever generated positive operating cash-flow? I understand Plexure has for the past 3 years. Growing cash balance, not shrinking.
Also, weren't you the guy who bought FBU? How's that going?
Last edited by Beginnerguy; 22-05-2020 at 11:23 AM.
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21-05-2020, 03:26 PM
#3460
Member
last fy they signed contracts with white castle and indo supermarket,we only see the SP pump up after annoucement then down again,and did not see the profit coming in report.
why plexure draw me attention becauae macdonald snapped 10% of their shares and they can get numerous contracts from macdonald worldwide,but i tried macdonald app in nz,beside the coupon,i did not see any breakthrough technology over there,i am still curious why so many ppl believe they can sign contract with another industry giant with decent profit in near future.
Last edited by Justin; 21-05-2020 at 03:33 PM.
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