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23-12-2014, 03:35 PM
#1171
Originally Posted by Landyman
Mossie has been very quiet - maybe he is the new Director?
Yes, I am too busy as the new Director concocting a JV between NTL/OGC/Newmont...
Oh crap, did I say that out loud???
Disc - not a Mossie nor a dirrctor. Only things I direct are paperflows
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27-12-2014, 01:45 PM
#1172
Last edited by Master98; 27-12-2014 at 01:47 PM.
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27-12-2014, 06:59 PM
#1173
I wonder what exactly they are going to take NTL to court for? It appears that they have followed whatever process the council required.... and what happens if the council loses - will NTL then sue them as well...?
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27-12-2014, 08:29 PM
#1174
Originally Posted by BigBob
I wonder what exactly they are going to take NTL to court for? It appears that they have followed whatever process the council required.... and what happens if the council loses - will NTL then sue them as well...?
"The community group wants to go to the High Court to challenge why a resource consent was granted without public consultation."
Anyone want to have a trawl and see if this was the case or if these guys are living in a little bubble of their own making?
I sure hope this doesn't turn into another NWF...
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27-12-2014, 08:56 PM
#1175
Looks like these guys need to prove the consultant is wrong and that there is more than "minor or non-existent issues". I suspect this will hinge around ground water supply and use of hazardous materials. They then have to prove there was a need to consult them. I think they're wasting their money as the history of the mine has never seen water pollution imho... (see page 6)
https://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http:...28f2834G7lCqPg
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29-12-2014, 01:07 PM
#1176
Go wave a placard somewhere else
Originally Posted by BFG
Looks like these guys need to prove the consultant is wrong and that there is more than "minor or non-existent issues". I suspect this will hinge around ground water supply and use of hazardous materials. They then have to prove there was a need to consult them. I think they're wasting their money as the history of the mine has never seen water pollution imho... (see page 6)
https://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http:...28f2834G7lCqPg
TLDR: Hippies wasting time - anyone with any nous saw it coming - nobody cares.
Disc: Holding.
Disc: Not losing sleep.
Applications for judicial review are commonly used to be a spanner in the works but even amount to anything. The scope of this judicial review will be to consider the exercise of the Hauraki District Council's power to decide whether to publicly notify the application or not. NTL doesn't really even need to do anything but they might as well intervene just to make sure the High Court is aware that nobody can be bothered waiting for this tripe.
The judicial review is highly unlikely to take into account the factual matters that the Red Threat/Anti-Mining Communists are dreaming up. It will simply be a question of did the Council exercise its powers in accordance with the Resource Management Act and other related laws.
Hell, even if the Court finds that the HDC exercised its powers with bias, improper purpose or was made taking into account irrelevant information or not taking into account relevant information, the worst - in my bullish NTL holding opinion - is that the matter is reverted back to the HDC with instructions on what to take into account.
It is then open to HDC to say "ok we've taken this into account, still no public notification."
Here's some fundamental sections of the Act for some context:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...LM2416409.html
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...LM2416412.html
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29-12-2014, 01:34 PM
#1177
Originally Posted by robbo24
TLDR: Hippies wasting time - anyone with any nous saw it coming - nobody cares.
Disc: Holding.
Disc: Not losing sleep.
Applications for judicial review are commonly used to be a spanner in the works but even amount to anything. The scope of this judicial review will be to consider the exercise of the Hauraki District Council's power to decide whether to publicly notify the application or not. NTL doesn't really even need to do anything but they might as well intervene just to make sure the High Court is aware that nobody can be bothered waiting for this tripe.
The judicial review is highly unlikely to take into account the factual matters that the Red Threat/Anti-Mining Communists are dreaming up. It will simply be a question of did the Council exercise its powers in accordance with the Resource Management Act and other related laws.
Hell, even if the Court finds that the HDC exercised its powers with bias, improper purpose or was made taking into account irrelevant information or not taking into account relevant information, the worst - in my bullish NTL holding opinion - is that the matter is reverted back to the HDC with instructions on what to take into account.
It is then open to HDC to say "ok we've taken this into account, still no public notification."
Here's some fundamental sections of the Act for some context:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...LM2416409.html
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...LM2416412.html
Cheers Rob. If you need any references for HIGH COURT LITIGATION I'm your man
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04-01-2015, 09:06 PM
#1178
Member
Seems the anti-miners are actually taking the wrong people to court (Hauraki District Council)
As per attached document, the subjects raised from a public meeting held on 30 September 2014 are not the responsibilities of Hauraki District Council. Responsibilities lie with DOC, NZ Petroleum and Minerals, and Regional council.
http://www.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/Files/...1_Talisman.pdf
The document as a whole is also rather interesting to read as it gives those of us who aren't locals a general idea of the things that are being discussed.
Last edited by Stumpynuts; 04-01-2015 at 09:18 PM.
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04-01-2015, 09:49 PM
#1179
Who cares? Let them chase the straw man (which they would never win anyways) and waste their limited funds! Can't even sue the right people. Pitiful.
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04-01-2015, 10:39 PM
#1180
Originally Posted by Stumpynuts
Seems the anti-miners are actually taking the wrong people to court (Hauraki District Council)
As per attached document, the subjects raised from a public meeting held on 30 September 2014 are not the responsibilities of Hauraki District Council. Responsibilities lie with DOC, NZ Petroleum and Minerals, and Regional council.
http://www.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/Files/...1_Talisman.pdf
The document as a whole is also rather interesting to read as it gives those of us who aren't locals a general idea of the things that are being discussed.
I disagree - they are applying to the HC for judicial review of the decision not to publicly notify an RMA consent application. They are "taking the right people to Court."
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