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04-07-2013, 10:43 AM
#111
Originally Posted by Whipmoney
I really need to sort me out a subscription.
Having him back it means that it should go well, at least initially till we start getting growth numbers to (hopefully) support the price.
Moosie - no longer a cockup?
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04-07-2013, 10:44 AM
#112
Originally Posted by tosspot
I almost get the feeling they asked him,
of course they asked him - they would be dumb not to.
That doesn't mean he invests in just anything. No matter how rich you are $2.5m is decent money.
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04-07-2013, 10:45 AM
#113
Originally Posted by tosspot
I almost get the feeling they asked him, as he and wynyard know that others will buy simply because hes buying in.
Potentially but I just think guys like him are optimistic about investment opportunities such as these.
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04-07-2013, 03:58 PM
#114
Originally Posted by Whipmoney
Potentially but I just think guys like him are optimistic about investment opportunities such as these.
Yes but guys like us expect people like him to recognize the difference between a golden goose and a lemon. I expect that he gave it a good look first.
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04-07-2013, 08:20 PM
#115
Member
So at this stage the lead brokers are not confirming this so where has the stuff site or who ever brought this out obtained the info
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04-07-2013, 09:34 PM
#116
I'm really surprised Sam Morgan is allowing himself to be used in this way. If this current tech boom turns to custard, he could end up "attached" to it, in the same way Eric Watson ended up attached to the 99/00 period. If you recall, anything Watson was in, went up. Until the boom ended - then it was a black mark.
I hope the same doesn't happen here.
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05-07-2013, 08:54 AM
#117
Originally Posted by moosie_900
mmm, dont underestimate the sam morgan/richard branson/peter thiel/milford growth effect sparky. we have seen many stocks soar when people think they are following the smart money...
Yes and thats why I say his involvement will be good for the company.
BUT in the end, the company must stand on its fundamentals. No 'SuperInvestor' can change that. Sure they may be better at picking the better company's but that doesn't mean they get it right 100% of the time.
I personally see this as a good sign. While Sam does invest in a lot of tech companies, he doesn't invest in them all. Therefore he must have some selection criteria which, given his experience are probably better than mine. I also note that this is not a new start up, which Sam is helping to take off. It is an established company, and while fairly new, is a spin off of an existing company which Sam has no involvement in - again a positive sign as his investment should in theory be based on investment criteria rather than start up/angel investing criteria.
Sparky - you can kill a lot of cats for $2.5m. While inconsequential, I don't think the decision would have been taken lightly.
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05-07-2013, 09:45 AM
#118
Member
Originally Posted by SparkyTheClown
Which is precisely what Gareth Morgan is now up to.
I should declare, while I have a huge admiration for Sam Morgan, I do not share the same sentiments for his father, who I think is a loudmouth lunatic who has underperformed and underdelivered in funds management.
Couldnt agree more on Gareth --Gareth was also less transparent on his own fees whilst he got great publicity criticising others on their fees. I do wonder however whether some name investors are also able to negotiate put options on the side for added protection. I'm intriqued to see PIE Funds newsletter refers to being in the money on put options.
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15-07-2013, 09:35 PM
#119
Member
From memory wyn float this Friday - closed fully subscribed at the lower end of the price range
Thoughts from investors who got an allocation or investors keen to pick up a few
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15-07-2013, 11:23 PM
#120
Junior Member
I took an allocation. More a punt rather than some deep analytical work. I feel this is what the share market is about, letting people invest in companies with strong growth ambitions. I know they are likely to tap me on the shoulder for more money but I am happy with that. Xero has proven if you get the right people on board and are not too greedy then you can be successful. Wynyard has the opportunity to form some strategy over their listing that could help them grow. Good luck to them. Hope they have a good listing however this is a long term play so not too worried about the first day, week, month. The next two years is a better time frame to judge.
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