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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdn View Post
    Hmmm, I don't know. By the time EVs reach any significant number (let's say 10 per cent of the light vehicle fleet by 2040), 1000 km range EVs will be common place. So not a lot of EV owners will be pulling into Z service stations to get a quick charge.

    PS EVs are 0.30% of the comparable light vehicle fleet now in NZ, so 10 per cent by 2040 might be pushing it. According to the Economist 2018 is the tipping point for EVs! *puts pinky finger in mouth* "Riiightttt".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGFb6CcG0DA
    With Europe banning ICE from 2030 NZ wont be so clean and green then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdn View Post
    I did end up buying 2400 shares of Z at $7.09 - I calculated that the dividend will pay for my scooter petrol over a year. I could have just banked the money and paid for my fuel out of that but that's not as much fun. I also have NZ Refining as well. Oil still has a huge future and with ICE innovations like Mazda's skyactivx, the internal combustion engine will still be dominant for the next 30 years at least. To celebrate my purchase I went to Z and filled up my Yamaha 150, it cost me around $16. I get around 35 km/l. I love that bike. I also bought two milky bars for $3.50.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/roa...ctric-vehicles

    $46m for Flick, is that a good price? I don't know. Flick hasn't managed to grow their customer base much at all over the last 18 months from what I can see.

    There is absolutely no way in hell ICE are going to be dominant for the next 30 years. NZ is signed up to the 2050 climate agreement. The EU is disallowing them past 2030 and almost certain NZ won’t be far behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdongle View Post
    With Europe banning ICE from 2030 NZ wont be so clean and green then

    Yes. My guess is that the NZ Govt will ban new ICE car sales from 2040 if Labour gets a second term. This is consistent with France and the UK. Germany and the Netherlands is 2030.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._fuel_vehicles

    Of course, the average age of a car on NZ roads is 14. So it will be well past mid century before ICE cars disappear from our roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patient Panda View Post
    There is absolutely no way in hell ICE are going to be dominant for the next 30 years. NZ is signed up to the 2050 climate agreement. The EU is disallowing them past 2030 and almost certain NZ won’t be far behind.
    yeah, 30 years. See you here in 2048 to compare notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdn View Post
    Of course, the average age of a car on NZ roads is 14. So it will be well past mid century before ICE cars disappear from our roads.
    that won’t be the case when you can have a driverless uber at the push of a button for a trifling sum. Theres also going to be much more stringent regulations on emissions and pollution regardless of which party is in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patient Panda View Post
    that won’t be the case when you can have a driverless uber at the push of a button for a trifling sum. Theres also going to be much more stringent regulations on emissions and pollution regardless of which party is in power.

    It will be just like the Jetsons!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyinD6ZDqeg

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    boycott petrol station day

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12137376

    better watch out they might put the price up next day to make back the profit
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    boycott petrol station day

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12137376

    better watch out they might put the price up next day to make back the profit
    strikes me as a bit like.........

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    So. Don't fill up on that day. But if you need fuel fill up the day before, or after...……..And that alters how much fuel (and profit) is used in that week, or month how?

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    Start sharing rides, most cars have only 1 person in them.An uber like app with a self regulating feedback rating system would solve many problems , traffic jams , costs, socialising(meet your local community) etc even if used a few times in a week.So obvious , people need to get over themselves and share a little and save time money and pollution until EV's drop in price. An Uber like app with GPS shows you exactly how close other rides or people wanting rides are so you pick the one that suits.

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