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    Arrow Well - the turbines are still turning

    Very quickly:

    Profit from the normal everyday business down about 13% on previous year;

    Full year assumptions include hydro production based on average inflows for the rest of the financial year - not convinced about that.

    Giving themselves the option to buy back 15m shares this year.

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    Question Is this of much importance

    MRP dropping out of the ASX All Ordinaries

    Whether that will have any effect I know not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paper Tiger View Post
    MRP dropping out of the ASX All Ordinaries

    Whether that will have any effect I know not.

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    XRO is out too... Man... What did MRP do to deserve this, being tarred with the same brush as XRO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by snapiti View Post
    can anyone explain to me why MRP pay a special dividend when they have plenty of debt to repay..... is it to balance the government books or just to artificially lift the share price or both.
    Because they like to give me money and they like to listen to you and your ilk call talkback radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapiti View Post
    can anyone explain to me why MRP pay a special dividend when they have plenty of debt to repay..... is it to balance the government books or just to artificially lift the share price or both.
    Hard to say in todays world debt is good saving is bad. I also wondered about Auckland Airports capital repayment of $450mill in 2014 looking at the Cashflow statement it looks like they borrowed $450mill to repay the capital because the increase in capital was a 734mill non-cash revaluation of Airport assets(I wonder if this is because capitalisation rates must be crazy low in a zirp environment). Great for current shareholders but an additional $450mill debt must make the company weaker.
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    Debt is cheap so shareholders get a higher return.

    I thought MRP is bigger than genesis - why is MRP out of the oz index and gen in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey Specter View Post
    Debt is cheap so shareholders get a higher return.

    I thought MRP is bigger than genesis - why is MRP out of the oz index and gen in?
    Not sure if its all about size only? Noticed IQE had also been added to the index so there must be other criteria other than just the size of a company.

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    Thumbs down I wish I knew the why

    Quote Originally Posted by snapiti View Post
    Liquidity issues........not enough average daily/weekly volumes on the ASX....same for XRO
    from the Methodology document:

    All Ordinaries. The All Ordinaries index is considered the total market indicator for the Australian equity market. The index is comprised of the 500 largest securities listed on the ASX and the constituents are not screened for liquidity. It is the only index that is not float-adjusted.
    I really do not understand why Mighty River Power is going to be dropped and I have read the whole document...

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    So not a matter of liquidity.

    But presumably some other companies have become "larger", or been recently listed - such as Medibank - and have shouldered those at the bottom of the pecking order out of the mighty 500?

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